Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: H2Vista Anti-Aliasing and Antisoptric Filtering?

RIP Halo 2.

So Halo PC didn't let you do either of those. Will Halo 2 Vista be the same?

  • 09.20.2006 1:52 PM PDT

You can use AF in halo PC

  • 09.20.2006 3:20 PM PDT
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The current set of screenshots don't, in any case, show any anti-aliasing.

AA can really add alot to the graphical quality.

  • 09.20.2006 3:27 PM PDT

I took some screenshots of AF in halo PC.

This one I just hit defaults and thats what it gave me. Im having a hard time believing halo PC original looked like this but I guess it did...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/TGAkuma/compare.jpg

Heres when I put 16xAF.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/TGAkuma/compare1.jpg

EDIT: And no the 1st shot was not taken at low textures or medium textures, I dont know why it looks like that but I know I never lowered any settings.

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  • 09.20.2006 3:34 PM PDT
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Those really dont look different. I think you just moved slightly.

If it DOES have AF, then why isnt it in the options menu?

  • 09.20.2006 3:55 PM PDT
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halo pc does not support aa/af, but you can do a force rendering of it through the graphics options for the card.

  • 09.20.2006 4:24 PM PDT

How can you NOT see it? Open up both links then minize one and keep repeating and I gauruntee you willl see a difference.

Stupid ass photobucket. I just noticed it resized my pics..

EDIT: Hmm, I dont think Halo PC looked as bad as my 1st screenshot showed cause I just did the restore thing againt and it didnt look quite as bad as my 1st screenshot shows. Something must have went wrong. But I do know that you can enable AF through the graphics card control panel. I been using it for a while now.

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  • 09.20.2006 4:24 PM PDT
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AF wasn't included for reasons I don't know, but AA can't be used because some other effects are using certain resources that aa needs. I hope they fixed this with the h2 engine.

  • 09.20.2006 5:11 PM PDT
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I hope so too, practically every game now has it.

  • 09.20.2006 5:13 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

It has to do with somehting regarding the way it renders on teh back buffer of DirectX or somehting.

  • 09.20.2006 7:26 PM PDT
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That first shot looks better than my normal settings...

  • 09.20.2006 8:00 PM PDT
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Most of the PC issues posted here are the result of PEBKAC.

I saw the difference. It's mainly in the grass textures, which seem to look more detailed with the AF on. I'm trying to get a card that supports AA and AF, but Halo doesn't support them, even though they can be forced. I've played with AF on, but I didn't see a big difference.

  • 09.20.2006 8:18 PM PDT
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AA and AF can be forced? How?

  • 09.20.2006 9:02 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

ON the driver level, howvere I've heard it can have adverse side effects and severely hamper the framerate.

  • 09.21.2006 4:21 AM PDT
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that is very true

  • 09.21.2006 7:25 AM PDT
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If you force aa you will crash.

  • 09.21.2006 8:25 AM PDT
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My pc can handle it. What [nvidia] drivers do I need to download?

  • 09.21.2006 9:40 AM PDT
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Doesn't matter if you have the best PC in the world, you will crash if you force AA.

  • 09.21.2006 12:00 PM PDT

You cant force AA but you can force AF. Never had a problem and I always play with AF on.

I have 84.43. Heres how to do it. Right click your desktop and click properties. Go to settings advanced. You should see your video card in the right upper tab. Click on it then go to "performance and quality settings". Now you will see "active profile" most likely set to global drivers settings. Find halo in that and click on it. VERY IMPORTANT! Check the boxes for anisotripic filtering and quality settings 1st before you mess with the slider. If you mess with the sliders then it will change your global driver settings and mess up graphics in halo like stupid triple lines following you. I also check force mipmaps but I have no idea what the hell that does. Now that those boxes are checked the only thing you need to change is the AF slider to whatever you want. If you go all the way to 16xAF you will need to change image settings the high quality or else the ground will look like its moving but you will lose ALOT of FPS.

Mine is set to quality and 4xAF. Looks good and still runs great. I think I lost 15 fps in my timedemo from doing this. It went from 77fps to 61fps. Not too bad.

  • 09.21.2006 12:14 PM PDT
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Hope they'll have AA and AF in H2 Vista! With the low-resolution picture on the Xbox, and some serious crappy textures at long distances, I hope for superior image quality on the PC version.

  • 09.21.2006 12:40 PM PDT

RIP Halo 2.

Hopefully the map building tools will be good enough that modders can build high-resoltuion texture packs and inject them into the game and rebuild the existing maps. Especially campaign.

It's a shame Bungie didn't develop all their textures at high resolutions and downscale them for the Xbox - then they could have put the high res ones into the PC version.

  • 09.21.2006 2:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

Posted by: IIDWells55XII
ON the driver level, howvere I've heard it can have adverse side effects and severely hamper the framerate.


I believe thats whats happening to my 845GL currently. But its taken a long time for the negative effects to actually settle in. I think about..2-4 months before my framerate began to steadily drop to a lovly 10FPS. Which is why I stopped playing Halo.

  • 09.21.2006 2:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

At one point, you actually could force AA, it was at least 2 years ago. There used to be a message that came up, "Halo does not support full screen anti-aliasing, click ok to continue anyway" or something like that.

I remember trying to run 4x AA with a 9800pro and the thing was a full on slideshow.

In later patches, AA support was removed entirely, which is a shame since modern video cards could probably use it now.

As mentioned above, you could always force AF.

  • 09.21.2006 3:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

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Doesn't matter if you have the best PC in the world, you will crash if you force AA.


Huh? And you base this on what? Personal experience? You can force all the AA you want, it just doesn't work. There is no crashing.

  • 09.21.2006 3:14 PM PDT
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Yes personal experience. Everone I know, including me crashes when trying to force AA.

[Edited on 9/21/2006]

  • 09.21.2006 3:57 PM PDT

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