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Or simply a hyperlinked red exclamation warning or dialogue similar to when you try to create a topic with no title.

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Posted by: Pezza
Or simply a hyperlinked red exclamation warning or dialogue similar to when you try to create a topic with no title.


So link to Sticky, followed by a warning of Thread Lock or chance of Blacklist.

That would virtually end the need for explanations (other than the really questionable ones.)

That would also mean that the "What happened to my Thread?" topics could be subject to more harsher punishment; it's your call though if this idea were to be implemented.

  • 09.23.2006 7:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pezza
Or simply a hyperlinked red exclamation warning or dialogue similar to when you try to create a topic with no title.


So link to Sticky, followed by a warning of Thread Lock or chance of Blacklist.

That would virtually end the need for explanations (other than the really questionable ones.)

That would also mean that the "What happened to my Thread?" topics could be subject to more harsher punishment; it's your call though if this idea were to be implemented.


My idea would be to introduce the stickies in the New Account introduction, or perhaps when your first enter the fourms, it would prompt another welcome screen informing the new member on how things work around here. This would lead to great benefits, as new members wouldn't be as clueless.

[Edited on 9/23/2006]

  • 09.23.2006 7:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carnage Kaiser
My idea would be to introduce the stickies in the New Account introduction, or perhaps when your first enter the fourms, it would prompt another welcome screen informing the new member on how things work around here. This would lead to great benefits, as new members wouldn't be as clueless.


The downside to that is that they could just scroll down to the bottom and click next or whatever. If you could program the page to where it had to be up for a certain length of time so they could either read it or walk off and come back to click "next" or whatever. If they did implement anything to somewhat push the rules upon a person, warnings shouldn't be issued and the minimal punishment should be a 7-day blacklist.

  • 09.23.2006 11:51 PM PDT
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Most of the times I explain why I locked the thread, and still people ask me why I locked it. I don't care if someone is "new" or not, people should read the rules when they join, and they should read them before they post. Because when you take those rules and put them next to your precious locked topic, you will know why it has been locked.
Excuse me for saying this, but: stop being lazy, and stop thinking us moderators will do and explain everything for you. If you really need to know why a topic has been locked, send a pm to a moderator.

Some times, I'm only online for a couple of minutes. Now, in that time I can perhaps lock a few threads, or I can can lock one topic, explain why I locked it and have that take all the time I had available.

I'll try to explain things as much as possible, but perhaps you people could cooperate a bit more.

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I'm personally happy with the way Mods do things. Granted there are times I wonder why a thread was locked, but no matter if I ask or not it wont unlock the thread.

Just my thoughts.

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And I know that isn't the only case of that, Recon.

I think that people should know what's lock-worthy from just being on the forums. People see locked threads, and more often than not, people (Members) tell others why it isn't acceptable.

People should have read the rules, and so they should know what they're allowed to do and post, and know that their posts aren't "theirs".

  • 09.24.2006 7:26 AM PDT

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Why should they do that?


I like seeing "Why was my thread locked?" Threads taking up space.

[Edited on 9/24/2006]

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Well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Do what you do- if someone says "Politics aren't allowed to be discussed," then a lock without explanation is fine.

For the threads that are blatantly disregarding the rules, no explanation is needed, but the way things work right now is more or less fine. Lock and explain when needed, and whatnot.

But for those that don't know the rules (even though they should), then a little clarity on why that action was taken place wouldn't hurt.

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Most threads that break the rules are pretty blatent at doing so. With the few threads that are locked for no apparent reason, are normally replied to.

And I don't think any of the moderators want to reply to every single "Shishka is a pegboy" thread....

  • 09.24.2006 11:33 AM PDT

It's the users responsibility as a member to read the Code of Conduct, and the rules. The moderators shouldn't have to explain the already existing rules in a thread.

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Posted by: Hobo GRrunt
It's the users responsibility as a member to read the Code of Conduct, and the rules. The moderators shouldn't have to explain the already existing rules in a thread.


Excellent point.

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I think it'd be nice to have the "Moderator notice:" things be a link to the rules.

At the end of the day, if a thread is locked, it's because it violated the rules in some way. To find out why it was locked, the OP simply has to read them.

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I think people should jsut accept the fact that if a thred is locked, then the moderator has a good reason too. Its not like the moderators here are dictators of the forum, and swiftly execute those who break the rules (or do they?)

Really, if its locked, shut up, get on with life, your not going to die from trauma because of a locked thread

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What's the point to it? Threads that are locked get locked for obvious reason that anyone who knows and has read the rules would understand. They don't always have time to just reply to everything that gets locked. And I really don't see what purpose it would serve.

  • 09.24.2006 6:51 PM PDT

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I asked this same thing a few days ago. Look, giving a reason as to why a thread is locked has no downside. Sure, Shishka, it bumps it but everyone looks at a locked thread anyway so that's not a fair reason. Since everyone does look at a locked thread it only makes more sense that a ninja should give a reason.

Sure it takes some more time but let's face it, most of the mods spend a ton of time here anyway. Will those extra few minutes really hurt?

I think one problem is all the mods expect every user to know the rules as well as they do. Good luck with that. But how about instead of assuming you give a reason and hopefully teach a couple people here and there?

I know you're only volunteers but if you're only doing an adequate job what's the point? Do an outstanding job and maybe you'll make a difference.

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Posted by: Sir Cumference
I asked this same thing a few days ago. Look, giving a reason as to why a thread is locked has no downside. Sure, Shishka, it bumps it but everyone looks at a locked thread anyway so that's not a fair reason. Since everyone does look at a locked thread it only makes more sense that a ninja should give a reason.

Sure it takes some more time but let's face it, most of the mods spend a ton of time here anyway. Will those extra few minutes really hurt?

I think one problem is all the mods expect every user to know the rules as well as they do. Good luck with that. But how about instead of assuming you give a reason and hopefully teach a couple people here and there?

I know you're only volunteers but if you're only doing an adequate job what's the point? Do an outstanding job and maybe you'll make a difference.

And what's the point of jsut teaching just a few people? In certain times it may be good to state why the thread was lock...off topic discussion, etc. But if its jsut a duplicate, with another thread exactly like that right below it, there is no point

  • 09.24.2006 7:40 PM PDT

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Didn't TGP or another Moderator bring up an idea where when a Ninja locks a thread they could have like "Default" explanations they can just click on and it it just locks the thread and adds the reason to an automated reply?

Kinda like:

Moderator Notice: This thread has been locked for <insert default reason>

  • 09.24.2006 7:42 PM PDT

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And what's the point of jsut teaching just a few people?

It's a few less people you have to teach later.

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Posted by: Sir Cumference
Posted by: Aznbanisher
And what's the point of jsut teaching just a few people?

It's a few less people you have to teach later.

Teach one, 10 more come to take his place. There is no point. It may have good intentions, but it won't work, and you cannot guarntee that they will actaully follow them

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Didn't TGP or another Moderator bring up an idea where when a Ninja locks a thread they could have like "Default" explanations they can just click on and it it just locks the thread and adds the reason to an automated reply?

Kinda like:

Moderator Notice: This thread has been locked for <insert default reason>



That seems like a good solution. It is efficient and it answers the complaints.

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Posted by: Sir Cumference
I asked this same thing a few days ago. Look, giving a reason as to why a thread is locked has no downside. Sure, Shishka, it bumps it but everyone looks at a locked thread anyway so that's not a fair reason. Since everyone does look at a locked thread it only makes more sense that a ninja should give a reason.

Sure it takes some more time but let's face it, most of the mods spend a ton of time here anyway. Will those extra few minutes really hurt?

I think one problem is all the mods expect every user to know the rules as well as they do. Good luck with that. But how about instead of assuming you give a reason and hopefully teach a couple people here and there?

I know you're only volunteers but if you're only doing an adequate job what's the point? Do an outstanding job and maybe you'll make a difference.


Moderators aren't here to babysit though. That is what it comes down to. If you don't learn the rules you soon disappear. It is just pointless to teach every single member every blatant rule personally. The stickies are there to reach a wide amount of people and they have basically failed if they rely on us quoting them in every single insntance a rule is violated.

Oh and I only spend about 2 - 3 hours every day browsing the forums. I lock about 10 topics, warn about 20 people and blacklist one if I am lucky. I don't have as much time as you would think.

  • 09.25.2006 1:32 AM PDT
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This has been discussed quite a few times, so please use the search feature next time.

It could work, but a few Ninjas have already expressed their feelings towards this idea.

-Fighting the typo demons.

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