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  • 09.28.2006 11:20 AM PDT
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Well...after sleeping on it I still wish HaloGen was allowed to continue it's quest. From what I understand some of the Bungie guys didn't like it being shut down, and that tells me that they were proud that their game spawned it. I'll personally take that knowledge and apply it as it was something that "had" to be done more so than something they "wanted" done. Bungie after all are fans of games, and there fans, but it was a "nessecary evil" so to speak.

I think the concern still stands wether or not the other guys will set the same high standards that Bungie does when it comes to making games, especially ones that have the word "Halo" in them.

On a personal I trust Bungie to pick and choose who they want to make said games and to have very high standards in there selection process. So although the concern still stands, it's not that big.

But if I see "Halo: Fight Sim" or "Halo: RPG" I'm flipping out.

  • 09.28.2006 11:31 AM PDT
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But if I see "Halo: Fight Sim" or "Halo: RPG" I'm flipping out.

I'm not 100% against "Halo: Flight Sim." I would love some large scale Halo universe space battles. But then again I still play Homeworld.

Now "Halo: Cart Racing" is were they lose me.

  • 09.28.2006 11:38 AM PDT
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In a last attempt to explain myself, I decided to type this. I'm a kind of person that always likes the new stuff. Not necessarily new, but different. I usually don't like it when series go beyond the fifth season ( I decided to no longer follow Lost when i heard that they were planning to got to season five and perhaps even six), I never like it when a game or movie, or book spawn all these sequels or side stories. I hate the fact that Square Enix is making all these Final Fantasy games, that have absolutely nothing to do with each other (That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet). I'm highly irritated when I'm forced to eat the same kind of food for 6 days in a row.

I always considered Bungie studio's a studio, that created a few games to tell a story, and then moved on to the next thing. But with halo that doesn't seem to be the case. It's more than just a few games. We now have a movie, an RTS coming up, some vague stuff by Mr. Jackson, we've got the HGN, and in 2007 there will be a monthly comic coming out, we've got dozens of Halo merchandise. The worst thing about all of this, is that it all seems to be happening at once, as I like to say: overdaad schaadt. Just too much to swallow at once.

I realize that this is of course my problem for a large part. And hell, I don't have to buy all that stuff, I'm not planning to either. Might all those things be cool? Possibly. halo wars might turn out to be the greatest strategy of all times, and unless it is, I'm not getting that game either (It's impossible anyway, we all know Starcraft holds that title, hehe).

What I do consider to be important, is that Bungie and Halo right now, aren't really living up to my expectations. Now now, slow down. I'm not saying that that is Bungie's fault. I simply had the wrong expectations.
I know, expectations and assumptions are bad. But it's hard not to have them.

Thing is, I don't believe that Bungie is the same company as it used to be. Ask Bungie something right now, you'll hear "Sorry, we're busy with Halo this, or halo that". And that's been going on for quite a while now.
So from my point of view, it seems that Bungie is all about Halo, and nothing else anymore. I'm beginning to wonder if the "tight-lipped policy" of Bungie is still working. Bungie isn't that small anymore. Like I said, I had expectations, and those turned out to be wrong, but nowadays it's just hard to have the right expectations of Bungie.

I'm not saying that Bungie has to go and blabber out every detail of Halo 3, I'm saying that there needs to be a bit more communication between Bungie and it's community. Bungie still is in my cool book, but it is a different cool book.

  • 09.28.2006 12:08 PM PDT

JaF, I agree with you fully. I couldn't have said it better myself.

  • 09.28.2006 12:13 PM PDT
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In a last attempt to explain myself, I decided to type this. I'm a kind of person that always likes the new stuff. Not necessarily new, but different. I usually don't like it when series go beyond the fifth season ( I decided to no longer follow Lost when i heard that they were planning to got to season five and perhaps even six), I never like it when a game or movie, or book spawn all these sequels or side stories. I hate the fact that Square Enix is making all these Final Fantasy games, that have absolutely nothing to do with each other (That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet). I'm highly irritated when I'm forced to eat the same kind of food for 6 days in a row.

I always considered Bungie studio's a studio, that created a few games to tell a story, and then moved on to the next thing. But with halo that doesn't seem to be the case. It's more than just a few games. We now have a movie, an RTS coming up, some vague stuff by Mr. Jackson, we've got the HGN, and in 2007 there will be a monthly comic coming out, we've got dozens of Halo merchandise. The worst thing about all of this, is that it all seems to be happening at once, as I like to say: overdaad schaadt. Just too much to swallow at once.


Agreed, but what if we look at it from another perspective? The fans who are getting tired of Halo don't want to see the series go on for another five years, just to end up a very dry stone on the side of a dusty road. Other fans want to see a lot more out of that Halo series, since it's all they know about Bungie. So what if this is to be seen as the method of appeasing both camps at once? One huge shot at bringing as many different Halo products that entertain the fans and that Bungie still makes, then Bungie moves on to something else. Then while they're working on whatever project they have next, people are still busy playing Halo Wars, or waiting for the movie, or playing Halo 3, or bugging Peter Jackson for details about the Wingnut game (or perhaps playing it). The "more Halo" camp is pleased, because it gets more, and Bungie can finally move on to another series, and Bungie has a hand in everything, making sure the series isn't overmilked.

I realize that this is of course my problem for a large part. And hell, I don't have to buy all that stuff, I'm not planning to either. Might all those things be cool? Possibly. halo wars might turn out to be the greatest strategy of all times, and unless it is, I'm not getting that game either (It's impossible anyway, we all know Starcraft holds that title, hehe).

Anyone who does buy everything probably has their parents' credit card number memorized.

Also, you should not be alarmed when a Wight comes knocking at your door.

What I do consider to be important, is that Bungie and Halo right now, aren't really living up to my expectations. Now now, slow down. I'm not saying that that is Bungie's fault. I simply had the wrong expectations.
I know, expectations and assumptions are bad. But it's hard not to have them.


Which is why you should do what I do: Always expect everything to be terrible, so even if it is mediocre, it far exceeded your own expectations. All that Bungie could do to disappoint me would be to make a terrible game. And it's not like that could ever happen...

Thing is, I don't believe that Bungie is the same company as it used to be. Ask Bungie something right now, you'll hear "Sorry, we're busy with Halo this, or halo that". And that's been going on for quite a while now.
So from my point of view, it seems that Bungie is all about Halo, and nothing else anymore. I'm beginning to wonder if the "tight-lipped policy" of Bungie is still working. Bungie isn't that small anymore. Like I said, I had expectations, and those turned out to be wrong, but nowadays it's just hard to have the right expectations of Bungie.

I'm not saying that Bungie has to go and blabber out every detail of Halo 3, I'm saying that there needs to be a bit more communication between Bungie and it's community. Bungie still is in my cool book, but it is a different cool book.


If I just smile and nod quietly, would I be able to save myself from being called someone who just agrees with a mod, while still looking like someone who understands the situation? I'm usually so patient that people find it annoying, so news about Bungie, or the upcoming games, or anything like that, is the last thing on my mind. I'll just go ahead and say that it sounds like more "communication between Bungie and it's community" might be interesting.

  • 09.28.2006 12:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: impurity
I present to you: JaF out of context:
Posted by: just another fan
I'm a kind of person that always likes the new stuff.

Posted by: just another fan
Just too much to swallow at once.

Posted by: just another fan
I realize that this is of course my problem for a large part.

Posted by: just another fan
But it's hard not to have them.

Posted by: just another fan
...but nowadays it's just hard...


Ewwwwwwww! =D

And about expectations, I know. i always try to expect the worst in everything. But the thing with bungie is, that they have always delivered.
So good expectations start to sneak in after a while.

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Imp, that post is an instant classic, just for the innuendo presented by misquoting JAF, the little horn dog.

  • 09.28.2006 12:44 PM PDT
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And about expectations, I know. i always try to expect the worst in everything. But the thing with bungie is, that they have always delivered.
So good expectations start to sneak in after a while.


You've got to fight it man! Fight it! Just keep telling yourself "Halo Wars will be terrible. The movie will be terrible. Bungie will run their business into the ground." Eventually you'll begin to the believe it, and lo and behold! Halo Wars and the movie rock! It's a Bungie miracle!

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  • 09.28.2006 12:46 PM PDT

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JaF, I find it interesting that you say "Bungie has always delivered in the past", and now you're thinking they're going to fail. Ever heard of perseverance? Sticking it out (Imp, don't even think about it) to the very end? If Bungie has done it's best so far, why not keep up that optimistic perspective? You are mostly basing this off of a pre-rendered trailer and some hintings towards another game involving Peter Jackson. Maybe you should slow down a bit and smile, eh? :)

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JaF, I find it interesting that you say "Bungie has always delivered in the past", and now you're thinking they're going to fail. Ever heard of perseverance? Sticking it out (Imp, don't even think about it) to the very end? If Bungie has done it's best so far, why not keep up that optimistic perspective? You are mostly basing this off of a pre-rendered trailer and some hintings towards another game involving Peter Jackson. Maybe you should slow down a bit and smile, eh? :)

Yes, Bungie has delivered in the past, but all of a sudden I have to deal with all these Halo things. For me, it's not a matter of quality, but quantity.

And if said something that could be taken out of context, shut up. :)

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I recall suggesting or taking part in a thread suggesting/requesting if it were possible to make a Halo-themed chess set. With the pieces as characters from the Covenant and Humanity.


I play alot of chess, and I consider myself to be pretty good. That being said, I would like to get my hands on a chess set like that.


I either second or third that motion. *Bangs gavel*

  • 09.28.2006 1:21 PM PDT

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As a halo fan I'm happy theres going to be three more games coming out based on it. No one is making you buy or like the game, but your selling your self short if your not going to look into to it for the main factor of video games, fun. Judging it or not buying it for any other reason is your own fault and your robbing your self of what could be a great set of games. Bungie has not let me down in the past(while they have neglected the 7th column, I do understand the reason why, I do not hold any thing against them because of that), and I still love the halo series more than any other, so I've got my hopes high for these games. THey have always been the greatest community loving company I have seen in the video game industry, and I plan on showing them full support.

  • 09.28.2006 1:31 PM PDT

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I suppose one could take anything out of context, really..
Posted by: just another fan
For me, it's not a matter of quality, but quantity.


That's besides the point. JaF, perhaps you should take into account that it is easily possible that all of these Halo things will come out with astounding quality. (which I suppose you already have..) I don't know.
I guess I'd have to say

"Wait it out, and judge the end result. Not the few details we have thus far."

  • 09.28.2006 1:37 PM PDT

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Yes, Bungie has delivered in the past, but all of a sudden I have to deal with all these Halo things. For me, it's not a matter of quality, but quantity.

And if said something that could be taken out of context, shut up. :)


I know what you mean. For Halo and Halo 2 I was pretty hyper and couldnt wait for the release. Now with Halo 3, HaloWars, Random peter Jackson mentioning Halo, Im just like "Oh, more Halo stuff, cool".

I liken it to a good song you hear for the first time on the radio, you find it awesome and cant get enough of it. Then after you hear it every 15 minutes for 3 months, you cant stand to listen to it anymore.

Lets call this phenomenon Haloverload

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The Halo movie has to be PG-13 if it's going to make any money outside of the existing halo market. 90% of movies these days are Rated R. Do you think Halo will stick out unless it's not in the majority of the movies?

  • 09.28.2006 2:02 PM PDT

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The Halo movie has to be PG-13 if it's going to make any money outside of the existing halo market. 90% of movies these days are Rated R. Do you think Halo will stick out unless it's not in the majority of the movies?


It doesn't have to be rated PG-13. You know why?

Halo.

  • 09.28.2006 2:18 PM PDT

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I recall suggesting or taking part in a thread suggesting/requesting if it were possible to make a Halo-themed chess set. With the pieces as characters from the Covenant and Humanity.


I play alot of chess, and I consider myself to be pretty good. That being said, I would like to get my hands on a chess set like that.


I either second or third that motion. *Bangs gavel*


Agreed. But i'll still kick all ya'lls asses in chess.

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I think I can put a cap on this entire "Halo Wars" discussion...
* "Halo Wars" is a crappy name for a game...it's far too general, even more general than just plain "Halo"...the name of a game can be important in some situations, and "Halo Wars" needs a completely different name...it will affect sales...

* An RTS will not be extremely successful on a console...can you imagine playing Myth on an Xbox? No. Why? The mouse is required to keep a close watch on all your troops, and to command specific amounts of them too...you can't do this kind of thing with an Xbox Controller...

* It is not official canon to the Halo storyline...think about it...an entirely different group of people is developing the damn thing, how can another company's influences alter Bungie's universe?
Another reason it isn't canon: it takes place before Halo 1, yet one member reported seeing an elite dual-wielding energy swords...and not to mention, the elites can turn off active camo at will, whereas the Halo 1 elites cannot...don't even get me started on the prescence of the battle rifle...

The developers of the game are not making it tie in with the rest of the storyline...they're also putting it on the wrong platform, and gave it a bland title...so if you ask me, the game will be subpar at best...


I'm going to analyze this for myself. Tell me how accurate I am. Also, when the Overlord of a site tells you not to talk about something on his site, that should be a pretty good hint that telling him he's wrong is a bad idea. Not because it will get you banned, but because it is incredibly rude.
Rude or not, it's my opinion...you have no goddamn right to call me rude for three good reasons: A)--You don't know me, B)--you then proceeded to say that I am "talking out of my ass" which is also considered rude, so you're a hypocrite, and C)--Achronos has also insulted me...do you expect me to act nice afterwards?
There are your three reasons, take 'em and run with 'em....just don't twist them around so that they fit into your idea of a counter-point...


Now on to ripping into Vita... I mean analyzing his post.And I bet you were up all night thinking of that one...


I agree with you on the name, but I haven't had time for it to grow on me, so I can't say for certain yet. I'd like it to be more catchy, but that's a discussion for another website.Why is this single issue for "another website"?

Who are you to say that it can't be done well? Honestly, who are you to say something like that to a company that has done this for a living for about a decade? You're qualified to tell them what will and won't work in a control layout in a game? Leave that t the professionals and stop talking out of your ass. Also, if I remember correctly, you can use a keyboard and mouse on your Xbox 360 if you feel the need to."Who am I to say that to a company?" I'll tell you who I am: a customer. It's simply beautiful how you ignore key points: I had given a good reason previously as to why collaborating on TWO games was a bad idea. It was not in the post you quoted, but my point was something along the lines of "It's too early." And if you would just think for a second, it IS too early in the Halo series to collaborate on two other games...only two games came out, now we have a movie, graphic novel, soon-to-be four books, and two collaborations...


Now about the canon. Can you honestly tell Bungie what is or is not following the Halo storyline? Ok, let me put it this way. I want you to recite the entire Halo storyline, beginning to end, right now. You can't, can you? So how can you say Ensemble will get it wrong? You don't even know what's right! I'm sure Bungie will be careful about this. They wouldn't "outsource" a game and then just let it be. I'm pretty confident that Bungie will check and recheck every aspect of the game to make sure it's grade A. Now onto these details; Ouch. You shot your own foot on this one. First off, there is no dual weilding swords. I've watched it. How do you know that elites can't turn off active camo at will in Halo 1? Have you ever played in a level where an elite would have it off? No, they're always patrolling halways in which case they would keep the camo on anyway. The presence of the battle rifle? Eas. The Pillar of Autumn did not stock Battle Rifles. They weren't some new invention, they were just not in the Chiefs arsenal in Halo Combat Evolved. Does that mean they did not exist in the Halo Universe? Not at all.Point taken about the battle rifles and dual energy swords; that is one time in which I should not have taken someone else's word (somebody else said they saw dual swords, and I guess I hopped on the ignorance bandwagon for a second there). They cannot turn off camo at will in Halo 1; we would have seen them do it. Why did they do it in the Halo Wars trailer?

And you have no idea what the game will turn out like. You've made completely inaccurate and baseless assumptions, and proved nothing except you can make a fool out of yourself.Oh, I made a fool out of myself? Who's the one being an ASS-KISSER? Don't even try to deny it; telling me not to mess with the Overlord, telling me not to talk about Bungie's this, Bungie's that....that's a source of pure ass-kissery...in fact, that ass-kissery composed about half of your post...ironic...

EDIT: To Achronos--I still feel that I was justified in posting my complaints here...do you notice all the Halo Wars threads? I am not the only one contributing to them....and like I said, if you truly did want me to post on the Halo Wars forum, you would have already locked every single one of these topics...but you didn't...so I was justified in participating in them...

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Vitamin, I'm not going to quote that entire post, but this is a reply to it. It's getting too long.

First off:


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Rude or not, it's my opinion...you have no goddamn right to call me rude for three good reasons: A)--You don't know me, B)--you then proceeded to say that I am "talking out of my ass" which is also considered rude, so you're a hypocrite, and C)--Achronos has also insulted me...do you expect me to act nice afterwards?
There are your three reasons, take 'em and run with 'em....just don't twist them around so that they fit into your idea of a counter-point...


I'll try to take this all in context. The first sentence; so let me get this straight. I have no right to voice my opinion that you're being rude because it's calling your opinion rude? That's a bit of a mind bender. You're telling me that I have "no goddamn right to call [you] rude" because it's your opinion? Seems hypocritical. Next. How could I know you? If everyone on the internet debated only people they knew, the internet would be pretty dull. I debate the points you make. These are alleged facts, and whether I know you as a person or not should make no difference. If it's about an opinion, don't expect to be exempt from criticism yourself. You critisize Bungie and you critisize members, but you can't be critisized because we don't know you? I'm not sure I follow the logic there. Now the "hypocrite" bit. I'm not sure I follow. Did I ever say I wouldn't be rude in return? If you're rude to some people, expect people to be rude in return. (I stand by the talking out your ass statement, by the way; you were telling a game developer that has been in the business for a long time that you know what works and they don't) Lastly, where Achronos insulted you. I'd like to see where, if you would.


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Why is this single issue for "another website"?


Plain and simple, Achronos says it is. He runs the site, he does what he pleases. If he says it belongs in another site, it belongs in another site.

Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
I'll tell you who I am...


Point taken that as a consumer you do have a right to voice an opinion, but please, don't act like you can make a game better then a game developer can. They know what will work, so just let them work on it and see how it comes out. You're worried about something you haven't even seen. And I think your reason is flawed. They've made much more then Halo, you know. Marathon series, Myth series, and more. They're not amatures.


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Elites can't turn off camo in Halo 1


I paraphrased your real quote. And I ask you to do this; prove it. Prove that the elites cannot turn off active camo in Halo 1.


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
OMG ASSKISSER NOOB

Again, paraphrased.

Heh. I was wondering how long it would take you to start calling me an ass-kisser. Ok, fine. You want labels? You're a lazy, spoiled wanna-be rebel who has nothing better to do then -blam!- and moan about how Bungie isn't doing excatly what you want, when you want it. In fact, your entire post is just you carrying on about how you want this changed, and they aren't doing that right. Get a job.

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Hmm, Bungie established a massive Halo Universe in Halo CE, and now they seem to be wanting to fill in the grey area in this Universe.

Yup, definetely sounds like corporate whore-dom to me. Personally I am shocked that people these days find the need to expand upon their visions (i.e the Halo Universe), and try and make money for it. [/sarcasm]

But in all fairness not everyone takes the corporate-whore view, so I apologize if it seems that my post is aimed at you. It is not. Actually right now I am chuckling to myself as I compare the posts now to the posts several years ago. People were screaming for anything and everything Halo, and now when the Franchise delivers, people turn the other way. Way to re-define fickle people!

Also good to know that no one has actually played any of the said games. Er just a thought...

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I'll try to take this all in context. The first sentence; so let me get this straight. I have no right to voice my opinion that you're being rude because it's calling your opinion rude? That's a bit of a mind bender. You're telling me that I have "no goddamn right to call [you] rude" because it's your opinion? Seems hypocritical.It was a mistake on my part, I used the wrong word choice....a better way to express it would be, "You shouldn't really call me rude, considering the fact that you resorted to saying that I am talking out of my ass."


Next. How could I know you? If everyone on the internet debated only people they knew, the internet would be pretty dull. I debate the points you make. These are alleged facts, and whether I know you as a person or not should make no difference. If it's about an opinion, don't expect to be exempt from criticism yourself. You critisize Bungie and you critisize members, but you can't be critisized because we don't know you? I'm not sure I follow the logic there.Point taken, it was lame of me to say something like that.

Now the "hypocrite" bit. I'm not sure I follow. Did I ever say I wouldn't be rude in return? If you're rude to some people, expect people to be rude in return. (I stand by the talking out your ass statement, by the way; you were telling a game developer that has been in the business for a long time that you know what works and they don't) Lastly, where Achronos insulted you. I'd like to see where, if you would.1--Yeah, you're a hypocrite, plain and simple...you say I'm rude, whereas you're the one that said I was talking out of my ass...obviously I wasn't talking out of my ass, because if I was, you wouldn't continue this debate.

2--He called me close-minded, which is an insult.


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Why is this single issue for "another website"?


Plain and simple, Achronos says it is. He runs the site, he does what he pleases. If he says it belongs in another site, it belongs in another site.
That's called being a blind fanboy. "Whatever he says is the truth." You're also wrong. The issue does NOT belong on the other site. Bungie and Ensemble are both collaborating on the game, so why should I complement the game on this site and criticize it on another? Feedback isn't two-dimensional; you can't expect one company to get all the good vibes, and the other company to get the bad.



Point taken that as a consumer you do have a right to voice an opinion, but please, don't act like you can make a game better then a game developer can. They know what will work, so just let them work on it and see how it comes out.I never said I could do their job better. Care to put more words in my mouth?

You're worried about something you haven't even seen. And I think your reason is flawed. They've made much more then Halo, you know. Marathon series, Myth series, and more. They're not amatures.I was not talking about the other games....I said that they have only made two of their own Halo games, and that IMO, it wouldn't be a good idea to collaborate on two others while working on a third...



I paraphrased your real quote. And I ask you to do this; prove it. Prove that the elites cannot turn off active camo in Halo 1.It can be proven by playing the damn game; it turns off when you kill them. I have played the game for years, and not once has an elite made the choice to remove camo. There's your proof.


Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
OMG ASSKISSER NOOB

Again, paraphrased.
Yes, and wrongfully so. I at leeast proved why you were being a brown-noser, did I not? I said you were blindly supporting Achronos and the rest of Bungie, saying things along the lines of "Anything that Achronos says goes."

You're a lazy,Prove that I'm lazy.

spoiledProve it.

wanna-be
Who do I want to be like? Oh please do tell, you seem to love making up these statements...

rebelRebelling, or stating an opinion?

who has nothing better to do then -blam!- and moan about how Bungie isn't doing excatly what you want, when you want it. In fact, your entire post is just you carrying on about how you want this changed, and they aren't doing that right. Get a job.I do have a job: I'm a junior in high school (it isn't easy). I can't help it if I am disappointed with a few things. I also can't help it if your post is nothing more than -blam!- and shinola...at least the ass-kisser statement fit your personality...at least my post isn't wasted on giving blind praise...

I know you think I'm one of those "OMG FIGHT THE POWER" people....but I'm not...I once made a thread (a long while back) about all the things I liked about Halo 2, you think that's "rebelling"?

I made some valid points: the name was general (which we agreed on), the weapons/covies don't really fit into the time setting which the game is being told in (which is partially true, since you disproved the battle rifle and dual sword theories, but the camo issue is a flaw in my opinion), it is a bit to early in halo's life to collaborate (again: I'm not talking about Bungie's overall history as a company, just Halo), and RTS' wouldn't work well on a console...those were my points, and I am still trying to figure out how we exploded into a flamefest...

  • 09.28.2006 4:11 PM PDT