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Subject: Guilty spark knew Master Cheif b4 the events of halo 1
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perhaps, but they did transit more than one time, and perhaps MC asked him at the beginning of the first transit, and he was thinking about it for the day or so in between then and when he says that.

  • 11.03.2006 7:39 AM PDT

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I freakin' got it looooooook
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ummm computers don't crack up the logical expalnation is the forruners were humans who presevered their kind on the ark (earth the planet they made for just such a purpose) and the thing cheif finds in H3 is a planettary defence grid and that mars was also one but it failed and that the prophets want humanity dead so they can rule cause they are whats left of the mars project duh duh duh duh iam a compleate master mind ha hahahahahahahahahaaaaa!

  • 11.03.2006 9:11 AM PDT
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To play or not to play....

Perhaps GS is going a little rampant. GS is still relatively helpful but I can all but guarantee you that it has its own agenda. GS just seems a bit too helpful and very anxious to activate the rings for my liking. Why wouldn't GS try to contain the Flood first then actviate the rings? It seems as soon as the Flood were released GS appeared and wanted to activate the rings. A bit quick on the trigger I think.

Maybe GS doesn't want sentient life around so machines can rule the universe... Sounds a bit oldddd but it almost makes sense.

  • 11.03.2006 2:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halo idea man117
I freakin' got it looooooook
Posted by: Halo idea man117
ummm computers don't crack up the logical expalnation is the forruners were humans who presevered their kind on the ark (earth the planet they made for just such a purpose) and the thing cheif finds in H3 is a planettary defence grid and that mars was also one but it failed and that the prophets want humanity dead so they can rule cause they are whats left of the mars project duh duh duh duh iam a compleate master mind ha hahahahahahahahahaaaaa!

Run-on sentence of the year.

  • 11.03.2006 3:46 PM PDT

I have defied gods and demons
I know you, your past, your future
This is UNSC AI serial number CTN0452-9
This is |n|n|n ROGUE PROCESS Ghost.713>
I am a monument to all your sins.

run-on or not it's right oh, and don't flame smart people cuase they can flame back twice as hard. -------------------(BLAM)------------------


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  • 11.03.2006 5:26 PM PDT
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OK Stop posting this Halo idea man 117. Multile posts of the same thing becomes spam. And everyone no flaming cause in the case of 117 i'm smarter than all of you.

Halo idea man 117 you have pretty much closed off your theory to discussion. It's still just a theory though and everyone's got one. We don't yet know what the structure is on earth and indeed whether the whole planet was protected by the forerunners from the halos' blast. Although we do know that the structure is just outside new mombassa. A city that really exists and lies on the equator.
I agree that a computer AI like GS shouldn't crack up, maybe go a bit ecentric from all those years alone, but he says some interesting stuff which is why I started this thread.



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  • 11.04.2006 4:19 AM PDT
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Firstly when GS says” Why hesitate to do what you have already done" he might just be referring to the fact that basically you have retrieved the index and are only one step away from activating Halo so the chief is basically finished. As for the "last time you asked me part" that could be due to age as 343 is old and his circuits may have been damaged or some unknown dialogue took place between them off game. However I don't believe this entirely as they are very specific words, he almost seems to contradict himself with them. If he has met the chief before then why when they meet does he greet him as if they've never met? Surely if he knew him before he would have responded with "good to see you again" or something. I doubt he sees forerunners and humans as the same as he himself distinguishes in dialogue between the two but he makes it seem like he’s met the chief before so the last reclaimer he was questioned by has to be humanoid. I had a theory that the universe is on a cycle and the same events repeat so maybe the same patterns repeat which would explain why he introduces himself but he also maybe has spoken with the chief before which is why he says "last time" out of anger that the new version isnt playing ball. (hmm almost reminds me of the matrix a little)


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  • 11.04.2006 11:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: kazong
perhaps, but they did transit more than one time, and perhaps MC asked him at the beginning of the first transit, and he was thinking about it for the day or so in between then and when he says that.

  • 11.30.2006 4:04 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

after reading ghost of onyx i have a slightly better understanding of what may have happened. you should read the book and see what new conclusions you come to.

  • 12.01.2006 9:58 AM PDT
Subject: Humans and forerunner connection
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while the theory is that they built the ark on earth to remote detonate the rings and preserve their kind but get rid of sentient life in range of the flood which gets on the theory of humans and forerunners both being reclaimers and the how gs confuses the chief by his familiarity with him. what i mean is that while gs has accounted for the rings last activation the forerunners on earth were ancestors to humans which fits. to be more specific i mean that the flood was out of control so the remaining forerunners escaped the their fallout shelter -earth- and remote detonated them using the ark and destroyed the life and contained the flood so they can starve meanwhile they stayed on earth and 100,000 years passed and the humans are what remains of the surviving forerunners which would explain the similarities in tech and physical makeup. that is why gs calls the mc and the humans reclaimers. that is why the environment on halo resembles earth. as for the suit being a lower class forerunner tech it must mean that while their stay on earth their record of history became broken and the humans are slowly reprogressing by the knowledge they gain from the covenant seeing as it is their own but that part i am not sure about but it is possible also i've been wondering why the chief can interact with the covenant systems with his suit and the fact that he finds it familiar but cant explain it unless the cov. borrowed that tech from the forerunners as well but that seems like the best answer i could come up with

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  • 12.01.2006 1:50 PM PDT
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hello i live in singapore where can i buy the ghost of onyx???i want to learn more anyway GS survived the destruction of halø how -blam!- he thou that???

  • 12.03.2006 5:14 AM PDT
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tou can try amazon.com or any bookstore you can find but i dont know -blam!- about singapore

  • 12.03.2006 7:16 AM PDT

Teabag makes you good.

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  • 12.03.2006 8:16 AM PDT
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I dont know if this has been said yet, but i think that the time travel could be possible.
When 343 GS says that his armour is inferior to other armour that he saw last time that could be The MC in his Newest armour from Halo 3.

He could have gone back in time in Halo 3 (somehow). and when 343 GS sees the MC he is in his better armour then when he goes in Halo CE. I mean when he goes to Halo in CE he would have no collection of going back when he activated Halo 10,000 years ago.

This is just a hypothises that i got from reading the first few posts.

  • 12.03.2006 11:15 AM PDT
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if the chief had his new suit of armor in halo 3 why would he need to go specifically to that ring to activate it when he is already in the ark where he can remote activate it. To add on my theory earlier i think when they activated it before (the forerunners) they could have made a library on earth. The library being a collection of dna. they could have activated the rings but leaving a program to reconstruct the forerunners which actually turned out to be humans therefore 343gs mistake in thinking the chief would know this because he is a forerunner rebuilt. however chief doesnt know why he calls all humans and forerunners both reclaimers unless they are one in the same but having no history of their past they leave a mystery. to your theory of time travel i think it doesnt serve a purpose. whether they left 343gs to use time travel on a future reclaimer why didnt they just do it themselves with the better tech they have. and if the chief did go back it would only still destroy them at his hands rather than theirs. i think their destruction was inevitable but by my theory they would still have a chance to destroy the flood and reprogress as a race and flourish.

  • 12.03.2006 11:43 AM PDT
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Ya, i was just going off of what someone wrote earily in this fourm. i doubt that he went back in time.

I see what ur saying: that humans are what was born after the activation of the rings.

  • 12.03.2006 1:09 PM PDT
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but dont dismiss the possibility remember 343 is a crazy mother-blam!-

  • 12.03.2006 2:10 PM PDT
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if the chief had his new suit of armor in halo 3 why would he need to go specifically to that ring to activate it when he is already in the ark where he can remote activate it. To add on my theory earlier i think when they activated it before (the forerunners) they could have made a library on earth. The library being a collection of dna. they could have activated the rings but leaving a program to reconstruct the forerunners which actually turned out to be humans therefore 343gs mistake in thinking the chief would know this because he is a forerunner rebuilt. however chief doesnt know why he calls all humans and forerunners both reclaimers unless they are one in the same but having no history of their past they leave a mystery. to your theory of time travel i think it doesnt serve a purpose. whether they left 343gs to use time travel on a future reclaimer why didnt they just do it themselves with the better tech they have. and if the chief did go back it would only still destroy them at his hands rather than theirs. i think their destruction was inevitable but by my theory they would still have a chance to destroy the flood and reprogress as a race and flourish.


Ya i see what u mean, i just played the last couple oh halo CE levels and listened closely to what GS was saying, and ya i like ur theory.

  • 12.03.2006 6:27 PM PDT
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i very good at this because i dont have a life

i somewhat of a halo:ce expert

  • 12.03.2006 6:36 PM PDT
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also read the book Halo:the flood i dont know how to do links but copy this but read it here for free

http://freewebs.com/chocduck/Halo%20-%20The%20Flood%20(Book%2 02).txt

tell me if you want the first one as well Halo: the fall of reach , for free

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  • 12.03.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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OTHER THEORIES ARE -blam!-

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  • 12.03.2006 7:41 PM PDT
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i thought this 1 out

its sad to see noone apreciates it as much as me

  • 12.04.2006 5:49 PM PDT

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