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I think Jcap has hit the nail on the head. Most people here blame gearbox for the netcode, when the blame falls on Microsoft, Gearbox and Bungie equaly.

  • 10.28.2006 10:08 AM PDT

Yeah, he's not flaming but simply posting the truth. Me15ter, those posts aren't flaming at all. Oh noes, he called people ignorant, which is the truth after all.

"Flame
An insulting message exchanged via email or within newsgroups.
An intentionally crude or abusive e-mail message or Usenet post.
an inflammatory opinion or criticism distributed by e-mail or posted on a newsgroup.
A deliberately insulting e-mail message or post to a USENET newsgroup, usually containing personal attack on the writer of an earlier post."

By that definition, I can't see why you think he's flaming. I don't see his posts being an attack on the personal level.

As for the glitch, it's called telebumping, in an unmodded map this happens when the teleporter is blocked by someone, and they both move in a certain way so that you teleport into them, causing you to bump through walls and stuff.

  • 10.28.2006 10:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: me15ter
Seriously, though, jcap, I've seen you do more insulting of other members than I have of you stating "the facts and truth."

Considering that almost all threads contain links in them, and I even linked to one of them, why should I have to keep repeating myself, like Zeph does?


Posted by: me15ter
Who ARE you to tell me to shut up? What authority do you have over me that makes you so important?

Yeah? No -blam!-. I would have never guessed... That's why I said get educated, and that's exactly what everyone else who knows the whole story would come in here and say too. Maybe you should do the same

Wow, you people are too ignorant to even bother trying to explain stuff to. Read through [some of] this thread. Educate yourself.

Now...let's see...in this thread, you've made four posts. Those quotes were from three of your posts. In other words, three out of four of your posts were flames. I don't even want to get into the flames you've posted in other threads.

Do you mind clearly explaining what classifies these posts as flames? I have asked a few others before and after I have posted if they constitute as flames, and no one can come to the terms that they are.

If you really want to nail me for calling someone ignorant and stupid, then here's why I said that. You know that saying "if it looks like a rose and it smells like a rose, is it a rose?" Well, that's the reasoning I used here. Because it is appearing that time after time people constantly ignore those willing to point out that they are wrong, I use my logic to conclude that they are ignorant for ignoring it.


Posted by: me15ter
Keep this up and you'll have to answer to a mod next time.

Oh dear, I'm terrified.

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My apologies to the thread starter for going a little off topic here in an attempt to point out that OmniosSpartan was horribly incorrect. Conscars's answer to the phenomenon is the most likely answer. If you are further curious to how it happened, search Google and you should find a few videos on how it is done.

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Posted by: Conscars
Yeah, he's not flaming but simply posting the truth. Me15ter, those posts aren't flaming at all. Oh noes, he called people ignorant, which is the truth after all.

"Flame
An insulting message exchanged via email or within newsgroups.
An intentionally crude or abusive e-mail message or Usenet post.
an inflammatory opinion or criticism distributed by e-mail or posted on a newsgroup.
A deliberately insulting e-mail message or post to a USENET newsgroup, usually containing personal attack on the writer of an earlier post."

By that definition, I can't see why you think he's flaming. I don't see his posts being an attack on the personal level.

As for the glitch, it's called telebumping, in an unmodded map this happens when the teleporter is blocked by someone, and they both move in a certain way so that you teleport into them, causing you to bump through walls and stuff.


"How stupid can you be, Conscars? Obviously anyone with half a mind would realize that he is flaming. Read the definitions and pull yourself from the pit of idiocy you've dug."

Pretty offensive, is it not? Is that a flame? I would rightly say it would be.

Now: "Conscars, no offense meant, but I think you're a tad mistaken here. If you do a quick check of the rules and regs, you'll see that he is indeed flaming others, using a bit too much emphasis and hurtful terms when arguing his valid points."

Which is the nicer post that communicates ideas effectively and clearly? Which is the approach people should use when trying to back up their points? You decide.

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As for others, don't just come in here and start acting as if you're above everyone else simply because you may know something others don't. Forums don't work that way, bud. I'm asking you honestly and truthfully: reread your posts. Time and time again, simply even omitting a few incendiary phrases like "wow you people are too ignorant" would've made things a lot smoother than they are now. I don't mind (nor care, it's not exactly my problem) if you have a different opinion about who's at fault for the netcode, but don't impose upon everyone else and call them idiots simply because they're "not right." See the two above examples for further reference.

And cite your sources with a link. Again, it's not terribly difficult and lends credibility to your posts. Even the obvious needs to be stated sometimes, sometimes members even link back to the H2V FAQ despite the fact that it's stickied for everyone to read.

Finally: If you're going to correct someone, do so nicely. Humans by nature don't like to be corrected, but if you're nice about it, people warm up to you a lot easier that way.

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  • 10.28.2006 1:38 PM PDT

How did you get the impression that I think I'm better than everyone else around? We're all equal here, just because I've just joined the forum doesn't mean my opinion should be of any less value. I still beleive he wasn't flaming, but thats just me. I'm not one to get annoyed by what other people say because I can choose to ignore them.

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The point of the matter is that the netcode can not be fixed. If a patch was made, it would be so huge that most wouldn't download it. The game has to be re-written to fix netcode, and that would be a huge waste of time. I don't mind leading my shots until H2V comes out...

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Posted by: Conscars
How did you get the impression that I think I'm better than everyone else around? We're all equal here, just because I've just joined the forum doesn't mean my opinion should be of any less value. I still beleive he wasn't flaming, but thats just me. I'm not one to get annoyed by what other people say because I can choose to ignore them.


Whoops...sorry, the first part of my post was for you, but the second half was meant for another member, not you. Lemme edit that a bit. Again, sorry for the confusion.

All in all, the lessons here are thus: If you want respect (and a warm response to your facts/opinion,) you need to give respect first. And secondly, like in my sig, sometimes people scream so loudly that others hear just the screaming and not what the screaming is about.

  • 10.28.2006 7:21 PM PDT

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