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Subject: Fred...Kelly.. Will...Linda..spartan survivors!?
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Hey! for those of you whove read first strike you know some spartans survive! will these be included in halo 2!? will dr.halsey and her trip with kelly be incorperated!? someone give me some answers or ideas!!

  • 05.24.2004 8:00 AM PDT
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i think there will be other spartans in it (at least decent allies) fighting alongside you in the big battles. so in a way yes. there might even be mentioned names or cameo appearances but nothing special. therefore in answer to your question yes. but i doubt we'll see their character, hear them or see them unmasked. there will just be other spartans. those who havn't read the books won't even know their names.

  • 05.24.2004 8:04 AM PDT

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It would be really hard to incorperate almost any part of the book for those who havent read it. How do you explain in halo 2 where they all came from without an hour long movie?

  • 05.24.2004 8:06 AM PDT
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well, i would like jsut to at least see some other spartans helping you and at least NOT DYING, since ur supposed to be the ultimate solider, how lame is it that your the last one left of a whole squad...it makes them sound like pansies....KotT

  • 05.24.2004 8:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Keeper0fTheTru7h
well, i would like jsut to at least see some other spartans helping you and at least NOT DYING, since ur supposed to be the ultimate solider, how lame is it that your the last one left of a whole squad...it makes them sound like pansies....KotT


They are the ultimate soldier that is human. The Covenant is a superier alien race so they are more evenly matched with MC than the human soldiers. They are definitely not pansies. You need to read the books or read them more closely if you already have.

  • 05.24.2004 8:13 AM PDT
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i read the books and i know the details...it just seem that the spartans are getting picked off like regular marines...and ud think w/ all their augmentations and armor...they'd last a coulpe battles more and not get jumped by jackals and stuff!

  • 05.24.2004 8:16 AM PDT
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I'd like to think they will incorporate other Spartans. Seeming how in the E3 demo they refered to MC as a Spartan (note not the Spartan) only and not 'the one' or something stupid. they wouldn't need to explain it, anyone whose read the Halo Manual knows MC is a genetically engineered super soldier from the Spartan programme. Be cool to have a sorta single player co-op mission if you know what I mean or work with a team of Spartans to take out a covenant ship or something like that.

  • 05.24.2004 8:16 AM PDT
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....i wonder if bungie ever checks this stuff out, and kows how desperatly their fans are beggin for this stuff....lol.-KotT

  • 05.24.2004 8:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Keeper0fTheTru7h
i read the books and i know the details...it just seem that the spartans are getting picked off like regular marines...and ud think w/ all their augmentations and armor...they'd last a coulpe battles more and not get jumped by jackals and stuff!


You have to remember that the plasma pistols the jackals use can burn holes through the MJOLNIR if the shields aren't up. Speaking of the shields, they weren't implemented until 2552 when John got his suit with Cortana in it. So before that the plasma was very deadly against the Spartans. I don't recall how many other Spartans were left at that time, but many of them were killed before that.

  • 05.24.2004 8:20 AM PDT
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where DID kelly ever go wiff Dr. Halsey!?!?

  • 05.24.2004 8:31 AM PDT
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dr halsey and kelly went to hell

  • 05.24.2004 9:10 AM PDT
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Will is playing monopoly with fred and linda at my house

  • 05.24.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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kelly went with dr. halsey as they try to find out about the secret spartan 3 project. i think, at least all the clues point to that way

  • 05.24.2004 9:26 AM PDT
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hey anewdisease666...im serious about this man...you dont have to make youself look like a fool , just because u havent read the novels- KotT

  • 05.24.2004 6:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Keeper0fTheTru7h
Hey! for those of you whove read first strike you know some spartans survive! will these be included in halo 2!? will dr.halsey and her trip with kelly be incorperated!? someone give me some answers or ideas!!


If Bungie is SMART enough, they will (or have already) twisted the storyline by adding Linda, Will, Fred, and Kelly as allies, as well as you being the Captain (making the story of Halo 2 more cpmplex and more explanatory than Halo was). If Bungie does this, Halo 2 could possibly be one of the greatest ganes ever!

Because after reading the books, ive noticed that Bungie could have made Halo 1 campaign a lot better and more detailed, but they kept it simple this time around. Lets prey that the dont let back in Halo 2, and make it like the books!!

  • 05.24.2004 6:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: mastercraig
It would be really hard to incorperate almost any part of the book for those who havent read it. How do you explain in halo 2 where they all came from without an hour long movie?


i was wondering the same thing you were until i saw an interview with one of the bungie guys, i will try to find it and put it in this thread, but he is asked about where halo 2 will pick up, and he says it picks up after Halo 1, and First Strike fills in the gaps. So maybe we will get to play some of those parts from first strike.

heres the link
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/xboxtv/default.htm?t=4809&v=847 43

[Edited on 5/24/2004 6:27:49 PM]

  • 05.24.2004 6:19 PM PDT
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In the announcement video it shows the Masterchief jumping off what I think is the Gettysburg from FirstStrike, he probally ordered Will Fred and Linda to defend the ship from Covie boarding partys, how the heck did the covies get reorganized after the mchief blew up the Covie spacestation as my favorite marine sgt. Johnson calls it the uneven elephant

  • 05.24.2004 6:22 PM PDT
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Yea i read that article as well. It is specifficly said that first strike fills in gaps, and vice versa.

I havent read the books but im going to get them for my trip to Australia (24 hrs on a plane each way). Can someone tell me the order they go in. There are 3 right? Thanks in advance.

  • 05.24.2004 6:25 PM PDT
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ok..heres the link to the interview that says "halo 2 will begin after halo and First strike will fill in the gaps"

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/xboxtv/default.htm?t=4809&v=847 43

  • 05.24.2004 6:26 PM PDT
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fall of reach, the flood, and first strike. Have fun in Australia

  • 05.24.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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Thanks man.

  • 05.24.2004 6:28 PM PDT
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They go in order like this 1:The Fall Of Reach 2:The Flood 3:First Strike

  • 05.24.2004 6:28 PM PDT
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In halo 2 there will probally not be other spartans just because being the only spartan left makes MC special, however, there will be ODSTs in halo 2 and they are the next best thing if not better. You can keep your stupid Linda id take an ODST any day.

  • 05.24.2004 6:32 PM PDT
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Which ones the best? Worst?

  • 05.24.2004 6:32 PM PDT

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