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Subject: Limit the amount of posts per day

I wanted to see the universe, so I stole a Time Lord and I ran away.

This is an idea I have been thinking about since I have been getting stalked by a spammer in the flood for the past week. I think there should be some kind of post limit for new members such as 3 posts a day for the first two days. I know this sounds harsh but, it would help cut down on the people that bypass the ban by making new accounts. As for legitimate members it won’t do much harm to them. I remember when I first started I didn’t post for a week or so and 2 days is not that bad.
I also think the post limit should extend to normal members as well but, the count would be much higher. This should cut down on members rushing to be the first post no mater if they have anything to contribute to the topic and make members think about what they post.

---Just an idea what do you guys think?


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  • 11.04.2006 4:49 PM PDT
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You may not post immediately after making an account, but what about other people? Do you think they just post once or twice per day? I've seen new members make lots of posts in a few hours. If they were spammers, they would have been banned before they would have been able to make so many posts.

Right now you can't make a new thread for the first 24 hours. I think that's enough. Putting a limit on the number of times you can post would be very unfair on potentially good members who were also very active.

  • 11.04.2006 4:56 PM PDT
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I do agree with a post limit for spankin' new members. However, I do not believe normal members should have a limit. While it will cut down on the "first-poster's". It will also limit the otherwise good members who like to post alot.

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  • 11.04.2006 4:59 PM PDT
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I find that people who have something worth saying don't post that often, however I am not saying that there aren't people who post frequently and maintain integrity and quality. I think the moderators have done an excellent job of keeping up with the people who break the rules. I do have to agree with Rant on this one, sorta. You have a decent idea, but it is flawed somewhat. I don't think punishing the community as a whole can stop the problem. Yet there is a way to reduce the flow of new spam and it can be done by limiting the posts per day of a new account for a set period of time. I know it sounds unfair to newer members of the community and anyone who thinks so is correct. But I would assume (key word) that most people who want to be here would live through the "Quarantine" period so they can enjoy the benefits of full posting power and expression of thought (within the context of Da' Rules).

For such a system I think something like 25 - 35 posts* per day for maybe like 3 days or so would be appropriate. You have some flexibility and yet you can't engage in spam wars unless you have a few extra accounts, maybe a few ² accounts. Even then moderators would pick up on it in a timely fashion. I think it would be a fair compromise, seeing as no one side could win this if it were to occur, so that spam is reduced and quality is secured.

* By posts I mean posting in threads such as this one. Creating new topics could be restricted to a few or none if so desired. Even if this plan is considered for implementation.

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  • 11.04.2006 5:07 PM PDT
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I'll be on my own side.

3 posts a day huh? Don't you think that's a bit strict?

  • 11.04.2006 5:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
For such a system I think something like 25 - 35 posts* per day for maybe like 3 days or so would be appropriate. You have some flexibility and yet you can't engage in spam wars unless you have a few extra accounts, maybe a few ² accounts. Even then moderators would pick up on it in a timely fashion. I think it would be a fair compromise, seeing as no one side could win this if it were to occur, so that spam is reduce and quality is secured.


Isn't there, though, supposed to be at least one moderator on at some point during the day to handle spam whenever it comes? So wouldn't the person who was bypassing a ban be caught anyways before reaching said limit?

  • 11.04.2006 5:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
For such a system I think something like 25 - 35 posts* per day for maybe like 3 days or so would be appropriate. You have some flexibility and yet you can't engage in spam wars unless you have a few extra accounts, maybe a few ² accounts. Even then moderators would pick up on it in a timely fashion. I think it would be a fair compromise, seeing as no one side could win this if it were to occur, so that spam is reduce and quality is secured.


Isn't there, though, supposed to be at least one moderator on at some point during the day to handle spam whenever it comes? So wouldn't the person who was bypassing a ban be caught anyways before reaching said limit?


Not exactly methinks. Moderators are volunteers here and regular members like us. They aren't forced to be here maybe except Leche for his dairy qualities. Moderating is just a come and go thing: you drop in, moderate, bAnT f00lz, and then go have a life.

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  • 11.04.2006 5:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Not exactly methinks. Moderators are volunteers here and regular members like us. They aren't forced to be here maybe except Leche for his dairy qualities. Moderating is just a come and go thing: you drop in, moderate, bAnT f00lz, and then go have a life.


Ahhh...but some of the mods were chosen for both their helpfulness and their time zones, weren't they? We have several non-North American moderators that are able to handle problems when the N.A. ninjas are asleep at their desks. So, theoretically, we have a moderator on at almost every minute of the day. Of course, that's not something to rely upon, and yes, Rant, that doesn't mean that a moderator catches spam the second it comes, but there's a good chance that if someone is spamming the forums, he'll be caught within five minutes or less.

  • 11.04.2006 6:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Not exactly methinks. Moderators are volunteers here and regular members like us. They aren't forced to be here maybe except Leche for his dairy qualities. Moderating is just a come and go thing: you drop in, moderate, bAnT f00lz, and then go have a life.


Ahhh...but some of the mods were chosen for both their helpfulness and their time zones, weren't they? We have several non-North American moderators that are able to handle problems when the N.A. ninjas are asleep at their desks. So, theoretically, we have a moderator on at almost every minute of the day. Of course, that's not something to rely upon, and yes, Rant, that doesn't mean that a moderator catches spam the second it comes, but there's a good chance that if someone is spamming the forums, he'll be caught within five minutes or less.


I think Goweb and TGP are the only non-US moderators we have. Even though there may be moderators for different timezones doesn't mean that there is a moderator on all of the time. Even if it is 12:00 in the afternoon in Australia that doesn't mean TGP or other possible people that are moderators in that time zone will be on due to a thing I call 'life'

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I dont think there shoudl eb a post limit, whats the point in the spam section then, and there are times when people are on hourrs at a time and post no-stop, i did once :).

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
I think Goweb and TGP are the only non-US moderators we have. Even though there may be moderators for different timezones doesn't mean that there is a moderator on all of the time. Even if it is 12:00 in the afternoon in Australia that doesn't mean TGP or other possible people that are moderators in that time zone will be on due to a thing I call 'life'


Well there's also Pezza and JAF...and one of those two has no life.

But I'll try this from another angle:

If you have a spammer, and that spammer reaches the post limit, do you think that person would simply stop spamming, feeeling he did a good day's work? I highly doubt it. It'd seem more likely to me that the spammer would make a new account, and start all over again. If Bobby Spammer is just going to find a way to get around the limit, what point is there to having the limit? All it really ends up doing is wasting 2 minutes worth of the spammer's time, and forces good and active members to wait around.

  • 11.04.2006 7:13 PM PDT
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Seriously, don't take me seriously.

Underground Pleasure - aren't you a bit curious?

I don't like the idea.

That's like...dictatorship...on a forum.

  • 11.04.2006 7:14 PM PDT

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Well there's also Pezza and JAF...and one of those two has no life.

You have me there ;)

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Like many ideas, this one sounds good while looking at it from a problem-solving perspective, but in reality it just gets plain annoying. Thank God we don't have a 10 character limit, on those other forums when they have them, it drives me nuts.

  • 11.04.2006 7:27 PM PDT

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2B || !2B - Why don't you look Inside the Machine?

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Looking back on the days when spammers rolled over these forums like the buffalo of the Great Plains, I think that we're doing far better than we ever have.

The spam-filter (more of a fast-post throttle) and thread creation limit together do a great job of keeping spammers down to merely interrupting threads as opposed to making an entire forum unusable.

As long as helpful members continue to point out disruptions and people who are abusing the site, things are doing much much better than they were in the past.


Very true..unlike the days of Twicth, Davester, Me, and others.

*By me I mean when I was new to the whole site*

  • 11.04.2006 7:28 PM PDT