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Subject: Why doesnt Halo kill the Flood??????
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
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Apparently, they are crappy at building sentinals, therefore, they built a ringworld that can be destroyed by an explosion about 1/15 it's size and it came with a crappy weapons system.

  • 11.10.2006 11:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: stare3
Apparently, they are crappy at building sentinals, therefore, they built a ringworld that can be destroyed by an explosion about 1/15 it's size and it came with a crappy weapons system.


the explosion didn't so much break the ring as it did spark the rings destruction. the explosion damaged the rings systems and the ring basically pulled itself apart by it's own gravity generators.

  • 11.10.2006 4:08 PM PDT

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My idea is they came up with many ways of killing the flood, but the flood, (my opinion, not being overly to complex) evolved to grow immune to many weapons or ways of killing it, that the only way would be to starve them to death.

And for the organisms, they evolve in thousands of years, some, (in this case, the covenant) evolve more quickly than others, but, it is possible that the species that made the covenant were not yet, sentient, thus, after the halo's activated, the species evolved to grow into sentients, and thus, many races were born.





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  • 11.10.2006 7:57 PM PDT
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Did you forgot what Cortana said? She said that the foreruners build it but it cannot kill the Flood because they are impervious to Halo, Halo wasn't meant to kill the Flood.


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  • 11.11.2006 2:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Because - the Forerunners, for some reason, decided to keep a small portion of the Flood alive by keeping it on an installation. They intentionally did not kill all of them.

or maybe they killed them with weapons like us and ran out of ammo so they had no choice but to keep them

  • 11.11.2006 6:36 PM PDT
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First of all you need to understand a few things.

Halo was last activated 100, 000 years (or so) ago. This time period seems a little short to see the variety of sentient life evolve to the point we see today. So this time may be local time to Halo. A Halo month might be a different time to us maybe 100, 000 Halo years is like a billion Earth years.

The Halo network has a few purposes that we know of. Firstly in the event of a Flood outbreak. If activated the Halo network detroys all sentient life capable of sustaining the Flood. This needs to be done very quickly to stop the Flood from spreading away from Halo.

This implies that the Flood were on Halo in the past. Hmmm makes you think a bit when you consider my next few points.

A typical Halo ring is designed to contain and study the Flood in the absence of sentient life. At first I thought this was simply to search for a cure. However that is only part of the reason.

Secondly the Halo rings that we know of each have a Library. This library I believe is used to not only store data but also (and possibly firstly) to store the DNA sequencing of every life form encountered by Halo. This includes the Flood.

Guilty Spark clearly states that the Forerunners exhausted all other options when trying to destroy the Flood. The Forerunners tried to destroy the Flood but couldn't.

Destroying sentiant life and trying to starve the Flood was a last resort. But it was not done without careful planning. The Forerunners knew the Flood would survive and designed systems to contain the Flood and study it.

The Forerunners probably knew that it would take eons of time for any sentient life to evolve to the point where the Halo rings would found. By this time the Forerunner hoped that Halo had discovered a cure.

My other ideas are just my thoughts but here they are.

Considering everything we know about Halo over the course of both Halo 1 & 2 I have drawn up a few theories of my own.

If you look at the teleportation system on Halo you will see many life forms and technology being teleported quite freely. However we never see any form of the Flood being teleported in any way shape or form.

This raises a question if the Library has the DNA sequencing of the Flood perhaps that knowledge is used to filter out the Flood during the teleporting process. In other words only non Flood infected forms can be teleported by Halo.

You can see evidence of this when the Gravemind teleports the Master Chief to High Charity (in Halo 2). Yet the Gravemind needs to capture and use the In Amber Clad to board High Charity. Why not simply teleport Flood over to High Charity? Why? Probably due to the Flood limitation on the teleportation system.

Perhaps the Forerunners found a way to use Halo to teleport themselves and any non infected forms to another place. Possibly they are waiting for a reclaimer to activate the Halo to enable them return.

The Prophets refer to this as "The Great Journey". While their methods may be a little off the ball their basic idea may not be to far off the mark.

I suspect whoever allows the few surviving Forerunners to return think the Forerunners would favour them. Hence a reason why the Prophet of Truth is so hell bent on performing his tasks at the cost of everything else. Perhaps Halo has found a cure for the Flood and once the Forerunners return the Flood will be defeated.

The Forerunners would be near invincible and as such certianly a race you would want on your side.

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  • 11.11.2006 9:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: stare3
Apparently, they are crappy at building sentinals, therefore, they built a ringworld that can be destroyed by an explosion about 1/15 it's size and it came with a crappy weapons system.


the explosion didn't so much break the ring as it did spark the rings destruction. the explosion damaged the rings systems and the ring basically pulled itself apart by it's own gravity generators.


I often think that the ring breaking apart was not so good for containing the Flood. It is possible that the Flood could survive within parts of wreckage drifting through space. In Halo 2 some of those parts looked big enough to sustain the Flood for quite some time.

Our only hope is that the wreckage either stays in orbit around the planet or eventually crashes into the planet to be destroyed.

  • 11.11.2006 9:56 PM PDT
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HALO-

In Attack on The Control Center, you hear Cortana say that Halo was a fortress world.

A fortress world is a world where the rich are seperated from the poor and they are always at war.

Now, either one of the sides created or found the flood. They then found how to control it and unleashed it on the other side.

THE NEXT PART IS ALL THEORY

Now, I believe that whoever found/created the flood also converted, (YES, not built, but converted) Halo into a weapon. They made a mistake, and instead of killing just the other side and the flood. They killed everything but the flood.

  • 11.12.2006 8:22 AM PDT

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It does, it kills all sentient life but halo hasn't been activated (chief destroyed it both times) I think all that would be left is machines unless it killed AI?

  • 11.12.2006 8:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Master Chef
It does, it kills all sentient life but halo hasn't been activated (chief destroyed it both times) I think all that would be left is machines unless it killed AI?


huh??? MC only destroyed one ring, and miranda keyes stopped the fire sequence of the other. that aside the rings were fired once, and flood still survived.

  • 11.13.2006 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Full Metal Halo
well, if you think about it, if it killed all life that could contain the flood, wouldent the floods curent hosts be whiped out as well? or does it kill everything exept the ones already on halo...?


This is one thing I have often wondered. I think the Flood began on Halo and any outbreak needs to be contained quickly. Hence Guilty Spark saying things like "speed is of the essence". If the Flood ever left Halo then that would be a SERIOUS problem as the Halo weapon doesn't seem to kill the Flood it only starves it to the point of being able to contain its lesser forms on the Halo rings. If the Flood existed elsewhere without containment measures then that would spell BIG trouble for any life in the future.

I think the Forerunners either destroyed all infected ships, stations and what not outside of Halo and then activated Halo to make sure it would be a hell of a lonnnnnnngggg time before the Flood could infect anything again. Hopefully by then the Halo system should have figured out a cure, or will be there to use again and again until a cure is found.

It sounds drastic but it may very well have been the only measure to take.

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Flood are killed by Halos, but Halo does not eradicate them. The Spores that infect Planets and make Infection forms are not Sentient (They're like Plankton) until they unite. So their food needs to go, so those spores go bye-bye, then you're home free.

  • 11.18.2006 6:36 PM PDT
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Just like we can't cure the common cold, the Forerunners couldn't stop the ultimate virus. The Halos were not a defence against the Flood, they were a way to make sure that if the Forerunners lost the war they could drag the Flood down with them.

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halo kills anything that can become the floods' host. The flood parasite is still there but it can't do anything without a body.

  • 11.20.2006 9:26 AM PDT
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I've read the books (not the newest) and played the games, but still can't find anywhere where it says the Forerunners found the Flood - the Flood couldn't have existed with the Forerunners on their planet, because then they would've died out loooong before they had the opportunity to make the Halos.

Perhaps the Forerunners didn't didn't find them, but created them? Chemical warfare, ya know. HA! ...it's late. *scuttles away*

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i dont think anyone has said this yet so ill throw it out. the flood was being studied and contained on the halos (doesnt matter why) and it seems fairly obvious that however they were contained on the halos let them live for 100,000 years, give or take, regardless of a food source. hence why theyre still here. when the halos were activated, the flood died soon after, except the flood contained for study on the halos. only after the covenant accidently released the few kept alive on the halos did they flourish again. so that explains why the flood exist today if anyone was still unclear about it.

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Ok i havent red anyone's post but here is y it doesn't make sense
1. halo kills all life
2. the flood is a parasite, thus; is considered life
???????
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  • 11.24.2006 2:17 PM PDT
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Its kills their food, but I guess something wrong happend. Hense their still alive...

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The flood can evidently survive indefinately without food but only in it's original parasitic form which is what Keyes and the Covenent initially discovered. There is no controversy that Halo kills flood because Cortana specifically states that it doesn't . The forerunners realized through research that there was know way to extermenate the flood through conventional means so they built the Halos as a last resort for victory and left behind their robotic minions to make sure such an outbreak would never occur again.

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  • 11.24.2006 11:39 PM PDT
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One thing that still puzzles me is why there seems to be no Flood outside of Halo. At least none that we have found yet. If the Flood were discovered there is nothing to stop anyone else discovering them again.

Perhaps the Forerunners simply found the Flood on there ships and had no clue where it came from.

Also if the Forerunners were being basically over-run by the Flood then why don't we see Flood anywhere else except on the Halo system.

Some people say perhaps the Flood did starve out and only the specimens left on Halo survived. I generally agree with this except it kind of doesn't make sense. Why did the Forerunners bother keeping the Flood around. Why not just let them die out?

Also if the Forerunners could contain the Flood then why not simply contain every infection that came about and not need to wipe out all sentient life? I know the Forerunners were being over-run but surely some could have survived the war and possibly eventually even won (if they stuck around long enough).

Some people think the Forerunners had a means to contain the Flood. Yes they seem to have been able to do that. But why didn't they do this instead of whiping themselves, and every other sentient life form (at least those capable of sustaining the Flood), out of all existance.

Why keep the Flood around? Guilty Spark says this was done for research purposes but it proves the Forerunners knew how to contain the Flood and as such makes you wonder why they couldn't do this more often.




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any of you guys think that the forerunners escaped to shield worlds and that is where they currently are, or are in another dimension, as is team katana in GoO.

btw, the covenant let the flood out, and in GoO, some elites are crazy enough to LET the flood onto their ship.

then there's earth's nickname "the arc." think about what an arc is and what it's been used for. as a last escape for sentient life, they use the arc to carry the last of their species to somewhere?

the forerunners probably left the flood around so that a cure could be found. perhaps the forerunners have infected persons (very important persons) that can be cured one day?

also, guilty spark mentions the chiefs MJOLNIR as only a level 2 or 3, cant remember, and in the book he says something about a level 12 suit, can u imagine that thing?

and...Ghosts of Onyx stated that there are offensive and defensive sentinels, offensive encountered on onyx, i wonder what those look and fight like (especially combined)!

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Ok, well if halos purpose is to wipe out everything but the infection in its purest form, then there shouldn't be any way that the infection can be picked up, but, the forrunners probably have "copies" of their race wich is either human or covanent and extra copies of the fiood to study so, basically the whole thing is just causing itself its own problems, the flood will infect the new "race" and well you know..... it starts all over again.

  • 11.27.2006 8:31 AM PDT

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