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Posted by: Rant
A member habs 77 makes a thread about me and then includes a fake post in his sig about me that is a flame and he doesnt get banned?!? Im throwing 1 in there.

If I had seen the "fake post" then I probably would have taken action, but I only saw the thread, and quite frankly, making a thread about an individual user (while against the rules) doesn't get you banned first time.

And then I have the mod telling me that a reference to the National Geographic channel I made as a flame to someone who started talking about my family is racist because the member had Mexican in his gamertag and typed in a stereotypical spanish fashion!!!??!
I'm sorry, but you're really an idiot. I asked you if that was your intention, I didn't tell you that it was. It could easily be misunderstood as a racist joke, which is why I asked you.

Its obvious that the mods play favs. You dont like me? Guess what? I dont give a fudge. Blah blah. She's chinese. I love her. We happliy dont give a fudge what you think.
Alright. What has that got to do with this?

Changes are needed. All but 2 mods need to be done away with. The only mod here I repsect at all is Recon. Solely because he is consistent. Not because he jokes around or anything. He's consistent. The rest of you are petty abuse happy dolts who cant check a page every few seconds or so.
So you want mods who never leave the computer and are ALWAYS GLUED TO THE SCREEN so that we never miss a beat? That's ridiculous. This is a volunteer job. We come and go as we please, because we're not required to moderate a certain amount of hours.

-TGP-

  • 11.14.2006 5:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rant
But I dont need some blow hard calling me racist or suggesting it.

I'm sorry, I'll just exclude you from all queries in the future. I should have known you were immune to breaking the rules.

I also dont need another blowhard telling me I have no rights here.
I didn't tell you that you had no rights. I told you that you shouldn't make racist jokes.

Can you stop bending my words please?
-TGP-

  • 11.14.2006 5:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rant
I want a mod that has enough brain power to not assume that someone is Mexican cause it says so in their tag.

For all you know, he could be. And he could be offended by the (possibly) racist joke you made. I know very well that he could be white or asian or black or whatever, but the fact is that his name makes reference to Mexicans, so you may take that and use it against him. I don't CARE what he is, I care what jokes you make about his name.

But obviously you weren't, so why the -blam!- are we still arguing about this!? You could have said that when I asked you!

-TGP-

  • 11.14.2006 6:02 PM PDT
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I like to Rollick

yup mods play faves, It's natural so I don't really blame the mod, just the people who...

But you got BL(?) for saying a racist joke? It doesn't matter what race the person is, it's totally irrelevant. I don't know you weren't really clear about the circumstances.

Lol I have no respect for TGP and I still don't talk to him like that hah

Posted by: Rant
Ok this is it. I dont give a fudge anymore. The mods play favorites. Thats it. I
And then I have the mod telling me that a reference to the National Geographic channel I made as a flame to someone who started talking about my family is racist because the member had Mexican in his gamertag and typed in a stereotypical spanish fashion!!!??! What the hell is this. The Bizarro world? Should I say hello instead of goodbye and goodbye in place of hello?

Its obvious that the mods play favs. You dont like me? Guess what? I dont give a fudge.

Changes are needed. All but 2 mods need to be done away with. TThe rest of you are petty abuse happy dolts who cant check a page every few seconds or so.


[Edited on 11/14/2006]

  • 11.14.2006 6:03 PM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

I can tell things are getting heated here.

TGP, you're the moderator. You do things based on discretion, and though sometime it may come of as favorites, I know it's (not always) you, or any of the other mods' intentions. The system works, but Rant is wondering if we can get more consistency out of it.

Rant, I know you're frustrated right now. We all get that way. But please, you don't need to leave the site. Ultimately, the decision is yours, but you're one of the rare members who is able to make extremely funny commentary, and yet produce threads like this that may potentially improve the site. The choice is yours, but if you leave, you're leaving a good community. We're just in one of those "phases" right now.

  • 11.14.2006 6:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rant
You specifically said the joke was racist. YOU. Not me. In YOUR head you looked at MExican in gamertag and a reference about National Geographic and YOU made the connection in YOUR head. So who the -blam!- is racist here? Youre making racist assumptions about people based on their tags.

Rant. Listen to me.

I was doing my job. A part of my job is enforcing the rules. One of those rules is that racist slurs are not allowed.

What you said COULD BE MISUNDERSTOOD as a racist slur, against someone who has the word Mexican in his name and talks stereotypically as a Mexican would.

Seeing as though I know NOTHING ABOUT YOU AT ALL (ie. the fact that you're Spanish and you have an Asian wife, whatever), the correct course of action would be to draw attention to the fact that you could have just made a racial slur. If I hadn't, then I wouldn't be doing my job properly, would I?

I acted in the best interest of the rules of the site, which you seem to think I disregard. You say I follow my own set of rules, yet you complain at me when I follow up on THE CORRECT RULES and draw attention to the fact you just made a racist slur?!

I'm going to lock this thread in a minute, and either you can continue this argument with me over PMs or you can take it up with one of the master mods. It shouldn't have gone on this long on the main forums anyway.

-TGP-

  • 11.14.2006 6:11 PM PDT

"I pledge to punch all switches, to never shoot where I could use grenades, to admit the existence of no level except Total Carnage, to never use caps lock as my "run" key, and to never, ever, leave a single BoB alive."

2B || !2B - Why don't you look Inside the Machine?

Posted by: impurity
I love TGP soooooooooo much. Just wanted to share that.


It's okay...I understand :)

Also...guys why don't both of you just chill and look at it from each others perspective? Maybe you will see and learn from another view than your own. You're just taking something somewhat serious and making it even more pointless to argue over.

  • 11.14.2006 6:12 PM PDT

"I pledge to punch all switches, to never shoot where I could use grenades, to admit the existence of no level except Total Carnage, to never use caps lock as my "run" key, and to never, ever, leave a single BoB alive."

2B || !2B - Why don't you look Inside the Machine?

Posted by: Rant
You enforce the rules. I would laugh but you make me want to vomit. And I cant vomit and laugh. How the fudge is not banning a member for 1) making a thread about another member and 2) having a sig that by passes the blam system AND attacks a member enforcing the rules? Oops sorry. "Enforcing the rules". How? Explain that? Oh you wont. Youll just lock and leave right? Why? because when one man has nothing worth saying he walks away. Walk away then. Lock all you want. I dont give a fudge. Guess what Pretender. Today. You proved to me that youre a racist. Isnt that ironic?

You can lock this thread but you cant stop the obvious. Everyone knows the mods are full of -blam!-.


Rant why don't you stuff a sock in your mouth and listen to TGP and ICEMAN for once. They have good views and are correct. Except you just seem to twist their words to get what you want out of it. A fight...otherwise you would have nothing else to be here for.

  • 11.14.2006 6:17 PM PDT
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Seeing as though Rant is unable to have a proper conversation, this thread is locked. All queries about this can be sent to him or myself through PM. Rant can go to a master mod about my hilarious misconduct if he wishes. Frankly, I shouldn't have let it leak onto the main forums and -blam!- a thread up.

-TGP-

  • 11.14.2006 6:20 PM PDT

"I pledge to punch all switches, to never shoot where I could use grenades, to admit the existence of no level except Total Carnage, to never use caps lock as my "run" key, and to never, ever, leave a single BoB alive."

2B || !2B - Why don't you look Inside the Machine?

Posted by: Rant
Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Posted by: Rant
You enforce the rules. I would laugh but you make me want to vomit. And I cant vomit and laugh. How the fudge is not banning a member for 1) making a thread about another member and 2) having a sig that by passes the blam system AND attacks a member enforcing the rules? Oops sorry. "Enforcing the rules". How? Explain that? Oh you wont. Youll just lock and leave right? Why? because when one man has nothing worth saying he walks away. Walk away then. Lock all you want. I dont give a fudge. Guess what Pretender. Today. You proved to me that youre a racist. Isnt that ironic?

You can lock this thread but you cant stop the obvious. Everyone knows the mods are full of -blam!-.


Rant why don't you stuff a sock in your mouth and listen to TGP and ICEMAN for once. They have good views and are correct. Except you just seem to twist their words to get what you want out of it. A fight...otherwise you would have nothing else to be here for.


Zee Jolly why dont you call SS Zag and hop back onto Senor Leche's lap? Or is that where SS is? I dont twist words -blam!-. I spit them.


Meh. Senor isn't online as of recent :(

Yes you are twisting words. You do it all the time and half of the time you make things up. Bungie was a great place before we had people coming here and complaining all the dang time. I understand a reasonable argument, but this is just plain ludicrous. You said something that could've possibly offended someone. Punishment occures...so what? It is part of the rules. If you don't like them get out...

  • 11.14.2006 6:21 PM PDT
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Hmm let me see. This is the conversation in question?

Posted by: Rant
Yes its like someone took wrestles placed them in oversized clothing and then told them to play soccer....on ice. Brilliant!
Posted by: the1337 MEXICAN
¡Aye! Someone understands less ingles than me. He said hockey... not what you do with your family on the weekends.
Posted by: Rant
And we'd talk about what your family does on the weekends but I think most people have access to the National Geographic channel.


Ok Rant get's sonned by a person who is behaving like someone who has broken English and speaks Spanish. He makes a remark about Rant's family which is honestly witty, not oh my god witty but witty nonetheless.

And then, Rant obviously on the ropes since everyone is cosigning the "1337 mexican's" slam comes out with "we'd talk about your family...but I think most people have access to the National Geographic. "

Since jokes hinge on the interpretation a normal person would have to be funny since that's the point of a joke: to make other people laugh. I would take into account the person's obviously, OBVIOUSLY displaying an image of being mexican, and the asumption of National Geographic showing impoverished people. Being the first to come to my mind, not because of my racial tendencies, but because of you implying the fact.

But since I believe that I must be racist, OH NOES someone says a racist joke and then the person who interprets the way the author intended it to is Racist.

Wow leave please.

  • 11.14.2006 6:46 PM PDT

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