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Subject: Happy Halo Day!

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

Posted by: Calm Killer

very well i mistook you for someone that was complaining about buying a 360 for the fact that you dont wanna upgrade. My mistake. I can see what your saying but i dont believe it is as big of an issue as everyone is (or going to) make it out to be.


Fair enough. Thank you for understanding. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for new content as much as the most rabid of fans. It's just that when I see major changes in the operations of Bungie, it gets me worried. The online beta will probably be the most beneficial change, as it will truly give us a tighter final product. However, I still have a hard time looking over the decision to do the CG commercial (I'll just have to wait and see) and the questionable business tactics of releasing an expansion for an Xbox game on the 360 AND making you pay for it. If anything, it should be considered a bonus to those who have remained loyal and shelled out for the 360 (no less than the premium model at that) But, like I said, I'm holding on to hope.

  • 11.15.2006 9:40 AM PDT

Shoot to thrill

I stood in line on a snowy November to buy your game.

I bought Live so I could play your game online.

I bought your first batch of maps right when they came out.

And now I can't get some new maps after I've stayed loyal to this game for over two years, because even though this is an Xbox game, I don't have a 360?

-blam!- you, MGS.

  • 11.15.2006 9:42 AM PDT
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I love you guys.

thanks for all the fun times, any many more to come :)

  • 11.15.2006 9:42 AM PDT

Ahhh so refreshing to hear a voice of reason on the forums, and two of them in the same thread! Kudos to both Calm Killer and Nelo Angelo, even if Calm Killer doesn't agree with me all the way :).

DJ

  • 11.15.2006 9:43 AM PDT

Killing Calmness til I Die

My theory behind the whole CG movie is that its not Bungie's Idea. I think this was thought up after the Movie got postponed. This will prove to movie companies that there is a large fan base. They can take the sample of ratings from that MNF and compare it to others. Think about how many people will be watching the football game that normally dont just to see this commerical. Its a fact gathering ploy if you ask me.

  • 11.15.2006 9:44 AM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

Posted by: Calm Killer
My theory behind the whole CG movie is that its not Bungie's Idea. I think this was thought up after the Movie got postponed. This will prove to movie companies that there is a large fan base. They can take the sample of ratings from that MNF and compare it to others. Think about how many people will be watching the football game that normally dont just to see this commerical. Its a fact gathering ploy if you ask me.


Agreed. My worry is that if they (Microsoft) present an image of Halo 3 in this CG "photorealistic" format, Bungie will have a serious dissonance to contend with in people's minds when they give us the real product.

  • 11.15.2006 9:53 AM PDT
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Please BUNGIE,
Let there be online coop thru the game over Xbox Live!!!
War everything HALO!!!!

  • 11.15.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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WOOOOOOOOOOOO! I want to throw a party right now! I am now a member of Halo Nation and Colbert Nation, and that's totally shweeet. There should be a giant statue or something for giving out the most quality downloadable content evar. Halo 3 public beta is just plain genious, that kind of testing should really help the final product. To all of Bungie except Frankie, I love you like bros, actually this news is so good Frankie rox too.

  • 11.15.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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i can't wait to get my 360!!!!!!!!!! omg! pre-release MP HALO 3 !!!!?!?!???!?!! i dont care if it is still in beta phase..it'll look and be soooooooo sweeeeeetttt!!!!!!!!! it's time to bust out the lucky ol' shirt u had since 3rd grade and dust off those ol' headphones from 1982 that still sound the best and u just cant explain it, and prepare for some oober pwnage!!!!!!

  • 11.15.2006 9:56 AM PDT
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i found a little something on the assault riflenest to the hand thers a marathon symbol on it

  • 11.15.2006 10:00 AM PDT
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Dear KittenKommando: One should never assume they know more than the average nation. When it comes to Halo, the nation will follow the evolution, resistance is futile!, microtransaction or not. Happy Halo Day!

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  • 11.15.2006 10:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Calm Killer
My theory behind the whole CG movie is that its not Bungie's Idea. I think this was thought up after the Movie got postponed. This will prove to movie companies that there is a large fan base. They can take the sample of ratings from that MNF and compare it to others. Think about how many people will be watching the football game that normally dont just to see this commerical. Its a fact gathering ploy if you ask me.


You could be on to something there. But also consider that by not focusing on making a commercial, that Bungie has more time to work on Halo 3. Ofcourse, the fact that they are taking the time to make Halo2 maps for a game that will not be played (as much) once Halo 3 comes out seems a bit contradictory. Especially since Halo 3 is touted to please both the H1>H2 crowd and vice-versa. People still play Halo :CE over Halo 2 even though it has superior graphics and better levek design. But since Halo 3's multiplayer will please anyone who had complaints about the previous games, why would we go back?!? It seems a bit strange to make the H2 maps so close to H3's release then...Not that I'm not happy about it though.

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  • 11.15.2006 10:06 AM PDT
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new maps!!!!

only on 360??????

obvously microsoft saw a way to try to force the hundreds of thousands of us who still love to play halo 2 on the box it was designed for into buying a 360. halo2 doesn't even play right on a 360, and in spite of any changes or upgrades to the backward compatibility, the 360 never will play halo2 as well as the original xbox. didn't they have to take backwash out of matchmaking just because of the problems it was giving 360 users? i have been waiting to buy a 360 until the only game i still play, halo2, comes out with its sequal on the box it is being designed for, the 360. now i have to think about buying one approximately 7 or 8 months sooner just to continue playing the only game i feel is worth playing. being a student of business, it is obvious to me that the ps3 has microsoft a little scared and they are trying to think of ways to boost sales on their 360 to show strong sales vs the ps3. "hey, how about these hundreds of thousands of people still playing halo2 matchmaking on the old box? how can we get them to buy a new system? they want new maps, eh. we'll give them new maps, ha, ha, ha." yeah, screw you too microsoft. isn't capitalism great? the few having power and control over the many.

  • 11.15.2006 10:12 AM PDT
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Most people dont give a rats @$$ about MLG. A mojority of Halo player have a life outside of video games. MLG are a bunch of snobby "Im better at Halo than you" A holes. All I hear is MLG frowns upon this or that, who the fuc# cares? Play Halo have fun and quit b!tching. Bungie has made these awsome games and you,(Kitten) feeling some sort of ownership of MLG sit there and rip on Bungie because of something that probably doesnt effect you or you dont fully understand. As far as the new Halo 2 maps go: As stated in the Happy Halo Day article, Bungie makes the games and everything else is up the the publisher. So quit bagging on them for something that is completely out of thier hands.

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  • 11.15.2006 10:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: KittenKommando
Calm, it's not that MLG thought of it first, they had verbal agreements with Bungie, i.e. almost a written contract. Bungie broke their word.


"Alex Seropian and Jason Jones stole my idea for marathon, we had a verbal contract and they stole my game."

This is an example of how you sound KittenKommando.....see my point, now or are we going to spew forth more insults?

  • 11.15.2006 10:14 AM PDT
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The Sentinel Beam isn't excluded from Matchmaking due to any performance concerns. It's excluded because it's ridiculous. It may as well be firing super-accelerated clowns. - Shishka

There will probably be quite a length of time between halo 2 map release and retail halo 3 release. I really don't expect (sure I would love to be wrong) Halo 3 until Fall 2007.

  • 11.15.2006 10:17 AM PDT
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Hey Sketch - RIGHT NOW I'm in the process of clearing my schedule for the Halo 3 beta. Wait...just a second... ok it's clear! I can't wait..

That's awsome news about the new maps!! Any idea if Halo 3 will be compatible with Halo 2 maps ?

Any chance we'll see a head-mounted gun? Just kidding :)

But seriously, I've been playing GOW...and last week I got to play some SHADOWRUN (and met one of your former Bungie guys there too...) which kicks ass(!) BTW,

*but* rest assured Bungie friends, I've saved a place in my cold, empty heart for HALO 3 :)

  • 11.15.2006 10:19 AM PDT
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Sketch and/or moderator, can we get some clarification as to what effect the new maps will have on Xbox Live play on the original Xbox? Will players without the maps simply not be able to play with players who are using the maps? I only use Xbox Live for Halo 2, and I may not be able to afford a 360 by the spring. So, if Matchmaking is useless without a 360, and I'm without a 360, then goodbye to my XBL account. It'd be nice to get some reassurance on the matter. I'm sure plenty of others are in the same situation.

Otherwise, cool announcements. Looking forward to it all.

  • 11.15.2006 10:22 AM PDT
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So much For 7/7/07 any way GO BUNGIE

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  • 11.15.2006 10:25 AM PDT

Just remember... I keep it real...

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I just -Blam!- myself...
*Cleans up mess...*
*-Blam!-s again*
Dang it!...
*Cleans up mess*
*-Blam!-s again*
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Read that and repeat. It all happened. Bungie, I got a large laungry bill because of you.

On a serious note: OMG! I am getting a 360 in Q1 2007 when those 360's with the smaller chip thing releases. I can't wait to be part of a Halo 3 Beta. Don't worry, I will be giving you pleanty of data to learn from. Also, new Halo 2 maps, CRAZY! I thought that game was dead in updates besides Matchmaking. It that why it says "Current Projects" on the Bungie.net home page? Wow, I just -Blam!- myself again. A BETA! OMG! I thought all those kids wanting a Beta and new H2 maps were all crazy. looks liek I was actually. Honestly, I will pay for the maps.

On the idea of a CG commercial, tisk-tisk Bungie. I thought you knew better... But the Halo 3 public Beta by FAR makes up for it. I can't wait to see the video. Is it December 4th. yet? I don't watch football, but I might watch now....
BETA!

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  • 11.15.2006 10:26 AM PDT

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I am guessing the power button on the AR is for the flashlight and the marathon symbol is there for looks, or it could mean that this is the gun you will pwn @$$ with and mow down the enemy while playing on Legendary. lol

  • 11.15.2006 10:29 AM PDT
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Stop complaining and crying about not having a 360 and not being able to get the new halo 2 maps. Bungie isn't forcing you to buy them (they still cost money) and they aren't taking away the ability to play all the other maps and halo 2 in general. Halo 3 will be out possibly a few months after the release of these new maps anyhow, so set aside $3 a day from now until then and you will have enough to buy a 360. Quit with the sob stories about paying 20 mortgages and car payments and 33 kids, everyone has problems. Either save to play or don't play.

Besides that, AWESOME update Bungie I can't wait to see that awesome CGI trailer! The screenshot rocks!

  • 11.15.2006 10:30 AM PDT

Dude, why the heck would you make new maps for Halo 2, but not make them available for Xbox? That's just dumb. You know why there's not as many people playing Halo 2 anymore? Because they're getting bored with the old stuff. Putting these new maps out for Xbox 360 only might get more people that have 360s playing Halo 2, but more than likely you'll get less people playing. The reason is that everyone that has 360s are gonna be playing on the new maps, and those of us that don't have rich parents that cant get 360s are gonna have no one to play with and we're gonna continue getting bored and eventually alot of us will stop playing altogether. If you put the new maps for Xbox 360 AND Xbox, I'm almost positive that you'll have ALOT more players. Just because some of us aren't rich enough to pay $400 for a game system doesn't mean we don't want the new content for our games. I say you should make the maps available for both systems. You'll have ALOT of happy people if you do, but if you don't you're gonna be getting alot of angry people sending complaints. I'll make sure of it.

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  • 11.15.2006 10:31 AM PDT

Is the Beta going to be a demo for the marketplace or just for people who signup? If it is someone tell me where to go!

  • 11.15.2006 10:31 AM PDT