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Subject: H3 Screenshot Dissection

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"On the right side of the screenshot you can see the beginnings of another small tunnel. There are COVENANT BATTERIES inside this one, nothing else spawns inside it aside from each grenade, but again all of these spawnpoints and weapons are totally subject to change and likely will have changed by the time you get your hands on the game. Subtly or dramatically."


Covenant batteries. I read everyones post, and only one person mentions them, then no one pays attention. Will we be able to reload our plasma weapons?
Bungie please reply. It always puzzled me that the Covenant would create a one use weapon to be thrown out when its battery died. Anyways, good read.

  • 11.22.2006 10:08 PM PDT
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whats a spiker?

  • 11.22.2006 10:14 PM PDT
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Awesome post!

Everything you talked about were things I wish they had in the original halos and much more, all fullfilled!

:] thnks Bungie!

  • 11.22.2006 10:27 PM PDT
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All right that sounds really cool. Seems like there will be some fun levels to play. I'm especially excited about Valhalla, since it's big, like my ears. And my nose. I have no clue why I'm talking about ears and noses. I'm sleepy. Great update, Happy Thanksgiving Bungie...

  • 11.22.2006 10:36 PM PDT
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mad update thx for the info

  • 11.22.2006 10:46 PM PDT
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Good update guys, its nice to hear your expert explanation of the pics.

So, from what we know already, i'm wondering if default spawn will be AR and SMG. We all know the AR is going to be the starting weapon, and non dual-wieldable, and that the SMG is still in the game (courtesy of the Snowbound pic). If the SMG remains as is, and the AR is improved as promised, i'm thinking an AR and SMG start would be pretty sick. Just think about it. For upclose battles you have the SMG and its dual-wielding capabilites and for medium range you have the enhanced AR. It's also nice to know that the BR remains. So many weapons to choose from! Bungie has really expanded Halo's weaponry ever since Halo: CE

  • 11.22.2006 10:49 PM PDT
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thank you kp...

i enjoyed your article.

  • 11.22.2006 10:55 PM PDT

Hooah!

Posted by: Ken Dawgg
The spike grenade resembles the flechette ammunition used today. And it does look like a helicopter.

How about a movable turret? A machine gun you can move around and set up.

H3 still lacks an indirect artillery-type weapon system. How about a mortar? You could have semi-guided rounds like they do today. Or it could be something that requires a little teamwork. One person to man the mortar and an observer closer to the target to provide updates for the mortar team ("Right 20 meters, Drop 50")

Finally, if Bungie really wanted to create a stir in the gaming world, how about some suicide attack weapons? MC wearing a suicide vest, a Warthog or Ghost tricked out with an explosive payload, and a Banshee doing a 9/11-style crash on Red Base. Perhaps these weapons would have long respawn cycles, but they would add some cutting-edge flair to the game.
My apologies to the troops in Iraq who are dealing with the real thing, but H3 should not leave out the most effective ground weapons of the last 25 years.



the FBI should be outside this guys house in a matter of minutes

  • 11.22.2006 10:59 PM PDT

Hooah!

Posted by: maygit
i don't know if this has been mentioned but in the pic of snowbound, right behind the blue spartans back it says "Out of ammo..." then the next line says "Press...". Is there gonna be a way to drop weapons that are out of ammo? Maybe tha'ts what the new feature of the X button does and maybe you can run faster when you do so???....or maybe i'm an idiot.


You R, HE is.

  • 11.22.2006 11:08 PM PDT
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visually,those screenshots looked horrible.
i can't even see foot-prints on the snow(dude ! come on,spartan armors are like a ton heavy)
what about the water effects,bungie boasted about how realistic is the water in halo 3,but they did not showcase anything about it.

obviously,those screenshots looked far behind the E3 trailer.

  • 11.22.2006 11:23 PM PDT
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The truth is out there. We're just not looking in the right places.

Give Bungie time power ranger. They'll make Halo 3's graphics look better. I mean after all, Halo 3 is still in its production stage.

And those maps....LOOK AWESOME!!!!!

I can't wait!

  • 11.22.2006 11:39 PM PDT
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I hate the suspence although that will make playing it all the more sweeter.. keep it up Bungie.Who Rah

  • 11.23.2006 12:41 AM PDT

You say goodbye, and I say good riddance.

Posted by: power ranger
visually,those screenshots looked horrible.
i can't even see foot-prints on the snow(dude ! come on,spartan armors are like a ton heavy)
what about the water effects,bungie boasted about how realistic is the water in halo 3,but they did not showcase anything about it.

obviously,those screenshots looked far behind the E3 trailer.

Um,no.Look at the lighting and setting differences.I watch that freaken halo 3 trailer just about every five minutes,(I know,i'm obsessed),and I truly don't see any difference.The spartans have just as much detail.

The real-time-reflections look just as good.And rememer,as Bungie said to the preshowing of these screen shots:THEY ARE PRE-ALFA.we all know how secretive Bungie is about eeeeeeverything.I actualy don't want to see the water effects until they have been finalized.I don't want to set the bar to high or low for myself.I'm sure you don't either.

Bungie has been showing us stuff as they feel when we should see it.i trust them.I actually love all of the secrecy.Makes that first time you play it all the more aswome.You guys need to seriously need to lay off of Bungie about these things.When they say pre-alfa,they don't mean "the finalized textures,sounds,and enviroments"They mean "placeholders,things still in the works,ect."

Come on.Stop being so pushy,do you really think that being complete asses to them is gonna make them "spill the beans" any faster.Gain a postive attitude.See these screen shots as halo 3 is comeing together more and more everyday.The na-sayers against Bungie need to realize that they are doing their best.Technology does have its limets.

sorry.Had to vent that.been sitting here reading hate post for way to long.hope nobodies been offended.On a lighter note.Thankyou so much for the new screens and the info that has come with them.And I saw purple blood by the plasma explosion in snowbound.Or what looked like it.It could be one of two things

1:simply the light shining on the unfortunate spartans blood.making it look purble.

2:elite blood.one of the spartans seems to be shooting in that direction,but not quite at anything.Perhaps this is the spartan who through the nade at the other spartan in the first palce.hmmmmmm...

Ah,well.All I can do is speculate until Bungie says what it is.

on an unrelated note.There is a screen where a worthog is exploding right next to a spartan.A wepon is being fired that is shooting a red blast.The brute plasma rifle?The spartan lazer?a very terifing,and bloody,sneeze?only bungie can tell...


[Edited on 11/23/2006]

  • 11.23.2006 12:57 AM PDT
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um dude those screenshots do look bad, take it from someone who knows (i am a texture artist [skiner] for the halo custom edition map team, CMT) and those screenshots are terrible. The shadow of the mongoose has pixelation, the grass texture tiles incrdibly bad, where the cliffs line up with the snow at the top is horrid, though these are pre alpha, I know these will get better.

Though, one thing I am VERY concerned about is the Spartan lasers first person model. That thing needs some serious loving, It's way too low poly, the texture is bland and lacks detail. T
he spartans, though the same model as Halo 2, is alot higher poly, more detail is actually modelled into the biped, rather than relying on normal/bump mapping to give detail.
For a 360 title, I'm expecting the textures for everything to be no smaller than 1024², the biped textures im hoping to be larger than 2048². Also about the very hi res screenshot of the halo 3 spartan, shown to us on the Happy Halo day(twas a good day :P) I think the model is way too shiny. It seems to shine like greese in places that would not normally shine i.e. the rubber parts of the armour. He looks a bit oily and greasy looking. Though I can tell by the detail put into him (hopefully no detail maps) that the rest of the content will scream sexy by teh time of the game shipping.

Also, a lovely addition would be REAL grass. It's the last in the series, the only one on 360, I would hate to see it have the same grass as the previous games. I'd love to see some mongii tearing through the fields of Valhalla, watching the grass part way and mud flick up as it goes <3 Would surely be full of win.

All of this said, it's a pre alpha build. I wasn't expecting finished game content, but please PLEASE fix the spartan laser 1st person, it doesn't look too far from Halo 1 graphics to me. spartan lasers and spikers are also currently being made for custom maps in halo Custom Edition, and they actually look BETTER than yours (wich at the moment is quite sad) so please fix it, though, I'm sure you guys are aware of it, and It's just a rough skin thrown together.

I wish the bungie doods all the luck for the future :D

  • 11.23.2006 2:31 AM PDT

From the shoulder beyond the wrist, look out evil its my Fist!

In the Snowbound picture, the dead blue spartan, in the snow, still has his weapon on his back does that mean we can pick up the weapons from the dead bodies instead of having them fly off in random directions when a person is killed.

  • 11.23.2006 2:54 AM PDT

Die for the Pie
ಠ_ಠ < Do it NOW

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Megan Fox is a whore.

Gigolo.

Sweet! Beautifully fruckn' Sweeet!

  • 11.23.2006 3:51 AM PDT

Die for the Pie
ಠ_ಠ < Do it NOW

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Megan Fox is a whore.

Gigolo.

maybe the held weapon flies off and the other one stays on the holster or back

  • 11.23.2006 3:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: Frankie
Shut up nerds!

Look its a new shotgun on the back of the blue spartan in the third pic O._.O

  • 11.23.2006 4:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: DANO555666
um dude those screenshots do look bad, take it from someone who knows (i am a texture artist [skiner] for the halo custom edition map team, blah blah blah
Lolololololol, pre-alpha graphics...

Its so painful to read through the posts in these threads because half of them are idiots that havent even read the article in the first place. "Anyone notice the helicopter in the first picture?" Honestly, how old are you, 10? It never looked like a helicopter in the first place, how does the huge Hi-res version make it look like a helicopter? Same thing goes for the comment about the Spartan "randomly in the air." omfg! You're right I didnt even see him!!!ELEVEN!! </sarcasm> Jesus...


In regards to the update and the pictures, the update is great as are the gorgeous pictures. I'm ready for some info on the elusive pistol.

Though one thing puzzles me and thats the spartan that is boarding the Ghost in the High Ground screenshot. There's a BR on his back and also 1 (or two) SMGs on the ground in front of the Ghost. Could boarding now require you to drop your primary weapon? If not ok, but I think I like the thought. <shrug>

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  • 11.23.2006 6:15 AM PDT
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i really had to look at the pics, study hard to see the diffrences..eg i looked at the screenshots with the screen big scrolling to look at the pic otherwise it looks very plain. the detail looks like its coming on nicly though the ground on lets say valhalla looks flat but detailed..im sure anything that looks a bit less detailed (the sparten cannon) and so on will be brought out even more when you guys are nearer completion since these multiplayer pics are still early stages. the action looks even better than before and new weapons and so on will be keeping it fresh and explosive. keep up the work im looking forward to a great product to go up high with halo 1 and 2 and gears..

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  • 11.23.2006 6:36 AM PDT

A witty signature you say ! ? well at the moment i have nothing witty that springs to mind, so sory..................nope still nothing.......

nice update, the screen shot's are awesome and it's really cool to see the secondery weopons visable on the spartam's back, allthough i am hoping that the flat 2D bullets spraying out of the battle rifle in the snow bound shot are place holder for actual 3D bullets, maybe i'm just bieng picky though. but yeah awsome pics and write up on the maps.

  • 11.23.2006 6:39 AM PDT
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did you guys notice it says out of ammo in the last picture by the blue mans shoulder? its very faint. pretty cool

  • 11.23.2006 7:21 AM PDT
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YAY!

  • 11.23.2006 7:43 AM PDT
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This game is looking so great! I am actually surprised on the graphics...It looks so awesome. I am glad they have gotten more screenshots here.

  • 11.23.2006 7:52 AM PDT