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Subject: Matt, someone failed to correctly report a parsing error...

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  • 11.25.2006 7:27 PM PDT

Technically, this has to do with something inside bungie..... >.>

  • 11.25.2006 7:31 PM PDT
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I think you have to include a check to Naguchi. Plus, I believe it would be wise to purchase a set of earplugs should he decide to cash your check.

  • 11.25.2006 7:34 PM PDT
Subject: Matt, someone failed to correctly report a parsing error...

Well, I was making a map for Halo Custom Edition. I wrote a few groovy scripts to go with it. But, when I compiled them, Sapien crashed!

Here's what I got from the debug text file...

11.25.06 20:18:14 EAX: 0xFFFFFFFE
11.25.06 20:18:14 EBX: 0xE48B0101
11.25.06 20:18:14 ECX: 0x0012EDF0
11.25.06 20:18:14 EDX: 0x000002CC
11.25.06 20:18:14 EDI: 0x0012EDF0
11.25.06 20:18:14 ESI: 0x00000000
11.25.06 20:18:14 EBP: 0x0012ECC8
11.25.06 20:18:14 ESP: 0x0012ECB8
11.25.06 20:18:14 EIP: 0x7C90EB94, C3 8D A4 24 ?????
11.25.06 20:18:14 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\hs\hs_compile.c,#306: tell matt that somebody failed to correctly report a parsing error.

:P That's exactly what i'm doing...
You should probably look into that... O_o

[Edited on 11/25/2006]

  • 11.25.2006 7:24 PM PDT

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Never seen this error before. I'll ask on GBX for you.

  • 11.25.2006 7:43 PM PDT

* Pr: ĭnʹtərnĕts: "I hear there's rumors on the uh (pause), Internets...

This is probably referring to Matt Soell.

  • 11.25.2006 7:59 PM PDT
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parse:

Verb
Inflected forms: parsed, pars·ing, pars·es
Verb
tr. 1. To break (a sentence) down into its component parts of speech with an explanation of the form, function, and syntactical relationship of each part. 2. To describe (a word) by stating its part of speech, form, and syntactical relationships in a sentence. 3. a. To examine closely or subject to detailed analysis, especially by breaking up into components: "What are we missing by parsing the behavior of chimpanzees into the conventional categories recognized largely from our own behavior?" (Stephen Jay Gould). b. To make sense of; comprehend: I simply couldn't parse what you just said. 4. Computer Science To analyze or separate (input, for example) into more easily processed components.

  • 11.25.2006 8:14 PM PDT
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In other words, you screwed up the script, please try again.

  • 11.25.2006 8:28 PM PDT

I dunno... this one looks kinda sexy. Check it out, yo!

(script startup hud_mission
(hud_set_objective_text "Capture the flag in 15 minutes to win.")
(hud_set_timer_time 15 0)
(sleep_until (= (hud_get_timer_ticks) 0))
(hud_set_help_text "You lose. Try again when you get better.")
(sleep 20)
(sv_end_game)
)

[Edited on 11/25/2006]

  • 11.25.2006 8:55 PM PDT
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Now, I don't know squat about this area, but maybe you forgot to include an instruction for WINNING? IE 'If the flag is captured, do this:'

  • 11.25.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chewy Gumball
In other words, you screwed up the script, please try again.


Correct.

I dunno... this one looks kinda sexy. Check it out, yo!

(script startup hud_mission
(hud_set_objective_text "Capture the flag in 15 minutes to win.")
(hud_set_timer_time 15 0)
(sleep_until (= (hud_get_timer_ticks) 0))
(hud_set_help_text "You lose. Try again when you get better.")
(sleep 20)
(sv_end_game)
)


First off, learn what and how long a tick is. Second, learn what booleans are. Third, examine just what in hell that script is trying to do. It wont sync, it wont fit two teams, and even if you got it to last more than a few seconds shoud it sync it wouldn't even know if you captured the flag in time. What you're looking to do is a string_list edit to append to the you_win/you_lose strings.

edit: Not to mention your syntax is terrible.

[Edited on 11/25/2006]

  • 11.25.2006 9:51 PM PDT

First off, learn what and how long a tick is. Second, learn what booleans are. Third, examine just what in hell that script is trying to do. It wont sync, it wont fit two teams, and even if you got it to last more than a few seconds shoud it sync it wouldn't even know if you captured the flag in time. What you're looking to do is a string_list edit to append to the you_win/you_lose strings.

edit: Not to mention your syntax is terrible.

1- I know what a tick is.
2- I know what a boolean is.
3- All that the script is supposed to do, is display some text on the hud, create a timer, show some more text on the hud, and then end the game if you don't end it by capturing the flag. (I'm using a hud_messages tag now.)

Now, have you ever heard of AI? It's short for "Artificial Intelligence." AI won't sync, but they will still fit in the game. Did it ever occur to you that this map isn't designed for more then one person?

As for your edit, instead of -blam!-ing about how bad something is, why don't you go make something better?

[Edited on 11/25/2006]

  • 11.25.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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1-sure
2-whatever. If you want to believe that equals is a boolean, I wont stop you
3- yeah, I suppose if you get the syntax right

Make something better? Kid, I was playing with AI before it became public release. Aside from desert_plat and the tag extractor tests, I was the first person outside of bungie to have all the characters in the Halo campaign to provide a true single player experience. I didn't do it because I'm a loser with no people skills, a poor internet connection, and no 2D/3D art skills whatsoever, I did it because I was pioneering single player mapping in general. I even conversed with Kornman about it all. (pssst. without him, you wouldn't have your precious scripting)

+<3 to people who think I'm a newb at this.

  • 11.25.2006 10:53 PM PDT

2- (= <expression> <expression>)
returns true if two expressions are equal

notice the "returns true" thing...

Dude, you seem to misunderstand. I had AI in Halo PC multiplayer maps before these tags were even out. It was an easy process of opening up a map in the HEK, using sparkedit to find coords for the spawns, and hexing the AI scenario data into the multiplayer map. Also, I know who Kornman00 is; I use his apps.
And for the record, I never said you were a newb.

EDIT- Oh, and fix the link in your sig. The download for halo custom edition is http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=410

[Edited on 11/25/2006]

  • 11.25.2006 11:15 PM PDT
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sleep until boolean condition(typically short)

^If you want to argue anymore about your syntax, I can always pull out the scripting bible for you.

And no, I understand far more than you can immagine. PC modding is crap. It's just simple replacements and amends. You might think you're accomplishing something great and amazing, but you gain no understanding whatsoever for how the engine works or even why it works. Yeah, you might have "done things" with AI in PC, but you haven't made actors from scratch, written varients, rigged encounter sequences that do more than run back and forth shooting, and scripted it all together to do more than wait for them to windle down to one character. As for saying I was a newb, I never said you did either.

And thanks about reminding me of the subdomain switch.

  • 11.26.2006 11:09 AM PDT
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"Immagine"
What amazes me is that you supposedly can type syntax code brilliantly, but you can't spell "Imagine".
And think, nice script, too bad it doesn't work.
(By the way, I'm JunkfoodMan)

  • 11.26.2006 2:01 PM PDT
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Spelling and syntax are two different things.

  • 11.26.2006 2:36 PM PDT

You sound like some prideful two-year-old who thinks you're better then everyone.
If you read my post, you'd see that the works fine now. I don't use that bible, I use the text filecreated by Sapien. Oh, wait, you probably don't know about that.

you haven't made actors from scratch, written varients, rigged encounter sequences that do more than run back and forth shooting, and scripted it all together to do more than wait for them to windle down to one character.Speaking out of ignorance, eh? I feel bad for you. And if you think a combo of doing that AND hexing it into the PC scenario is meaningless, you should go try it yourself; you won't get very far.

Quit acting like an arrogant, whiney child, and grow the -blam!- up!

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Hey Zeph, you think your smart heh? You think you know what thinkreddie has done or hasnt done, but I could do the same to you. I could say you've never even made a map before, cause I dont know you and judging by the way you act, I really don't want to. Stop -blam!-ing and get a life.

  • 11.26.2006 3:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: moonmole
"Immagine"
What amazes me is that you supposedly can type syntax code brilliantly, but you can't spell "Imagine".
And think, nice script, too bad it doesn't work.
(By the way, I'm JunkfoodMan)


heaven forbid I make a spelling error typing. I care soo much about it and it just pains me soo much if I make a mistake. It's really high up there on my priority list. I like how you said I can type syntax code brilliantly. That made me giggle like a little school girl.

You sound like some prideful two-year-old who thinks you're better then everyone.
That's your opinion. If you're expecting a result to somehow change the tone you percieve from reading my words in the near future, dont count on it. Your brain isn't working like that.

If you read my post, you'd see that the works fine now. I don't use that bible, I use the text filecreated by Sapien. Oh, wait, you probably don't know about that.
I'm sorry, the what? You seem to have a parsing problem in general instead of just with your script. That is assuming I'm going along the standards of that guy who complained about my spelling error :p. And yeah, I definately dont know about that... Especially since I was scripting before the leak of Korn's work.

Speaking out of ignorance, eh? I feel bad for you. And if you think a combo of doing that AND hexing it into the PC scenario is meaningless, you should go try it yourself; you won't get very far.
Quit acting like an arrogant, whiney child, and grow the -blam!- up!


Yeah, I'm definately speaking out of ignorance. Do you even know the definition of the word? I dont see how you can use it to describe me when I've pointed out the flaw in your script from my first post in this thread. It's kinda bad that people who know nothing whatsoever are providing correct answers to problems.

I wont even argue with you about the hexing. I dont do it and I wont get far into it because of that without a newb-tool where someone has allready bounced the learning curb down for me. I have no need for hexing Halo. No one does. Why would you even want to hex when you have the tools to do it the proper way?

Arrogance, perhaps, is percieved on your end. I can't say anything else about that in a debate until you provide reasons why. I've learned what you're talking about ages ago. I was part of the group pioneering what you're having problems with. As for calling me a whiney child who needs to grow the -blam!- up, you're playing that part very well.

I've described your problem with a literal definition and I've given you the exact line that is causing the exception, yet you're the one having problems realizing this.

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Zeph, the amazing amount of support you have really shows that you are both mature and friendly. Thinkreddie is a renowned member of the Halo PC/CE modding community. Your arrogant attitude is the only reason this conflict started.
(midwaymas by the way)

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Actually, I'd have to say him not realizing I gave him the answer to his problem multiple times and calling me an arrogant kid for doing so brought about this 'conflict', you speak of. The closest I can come to understanding where you get conflict out of this thread is my speaking in sarcasm and others, such as yourself, are speaking in a hostile fashion. On top of that, if you show me an example of me being overbearing and putting a midas worth on myself and show it's not your perception of tone I'll apologize.

  • 11.26.2006 7:51 PM PDT

I wonder if the Wolf thinks the Moon listens when he howls at it.

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Unfortunately Zeph, not using aggressive tones or directly insulting anyone doesn't mean you have not been hostile. Saying that you "know more than thinkreddie could imagine", "Halo PC modding is crap", "You may have 'Done Things' with AI", etc. is obviously not intended as a friendly, or even neutral tone. When the message behind everything you've said is that you are superior, it's difficult to understand why you have completely reversed this now that it comes to you explaining yourself.

  • 11.26.2006 8:08 PM PDT
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"know more than thinkreddie could imagine"
Yeah, I know more than he could imagine I do. I'm sorry, but its a simple reply. He said I misunderstood, I replied that I understood more than he thinks I could.

"Halo PC modding is crap"
I'll stand by this. It's relatively limited to what allready exsists, lacks ambition, and shouldn't even be going on anymore. If I went about writing a paper with the same theology as PC modding, my professors would fail me.

"You may have 'Done Things' with AI"
Me copying and pasting the above quotes is the exact same thing as anyone does when they modify PC.

is obviously not intended as a friendly, or even neutral tone
I'm not out to make friends and speaking in a neutral tone is not what someone does when stating something affirmative.

When the message behind everything you've said is that you are superior, it's difficult to understand why you have completely reversed this now that it comes to you explaining yourself.
Perhaps it's difficult to understand because I've not shown superiority or inferiority? The 'stated conflict' stems from my stated facts, aside from where this discussion delved into PC modding, and I have stuck with them. It's natural to find something you see difficult to understand if it's nonexsistent.

  • 11.26.2006 9:42 PM PDT

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