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Posted by: gearbox
I assume you've played H2 xbox, because everyone who has knows the smg is crap.


Really? It is? Wow, I get most of my kills with it. I love that bullet hose.

  • 11.29.2006 6:15 PM PDT
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Well it can be usufull at close range, and it owns when duel weilded with a pistol or itself. But when you start off, you should have a gun that can handle most situations fairly well like the BR, Carbine, PR etc. The SMG is stricktly close range.

P.S. Most effective combo is SMG + Magnum

[Edited on 11/29/2006]

  • 11.29.2006 7:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: trekkie
Posted by: gearbox
I assume you've played H2 xbox, because everyone who has knows the smg is crap.


Really? It is? Wow, I get most of my kills with it. I love that bullet hose.


Unless you played on XBL, with ppl rank 25+ a good team slayer match can go bad real fast if the BR gets in the hands of the other team, let alone the sniper. I guess its good after a well placed nade toss. Or when combined with another gun.

  • 11.29.2006 9:38 PM PDT
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SMG & Magnum does work well, noob combo is more evil though lol.

  • 11.29.2006 9:40 PM PDT

Battle Rifle of course. It is the most balanced, fair weapon ever made in the Halo universe (pistol was overpowered).

  • 11.29.2006 9:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kyle112
Battle Rifle of course. It is the most balanced, fair weapon ever made in the Halo universe (pistol was overpowered).

Wrong, sorry. The pistol was overpowered, maybe it didn't take the role it was supposed to take as a backup weapon, but it took a good amount of skill to use and it wasn't a perfect weapon. The battle rifle in Halo 2 was crippled by severe auto-aim and huge hitboxes which left little room for improvement in terms of skill.

I still think they should leave the map default starting weapon as the SMG (or plasma rifle if it's on a map like Midship).

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Posted by: No Refunds
Posted by: darekster2ongame
NEEEEEEDLER!!!

Needler owns man
...not in Halo 2.

  • 11.30.2006 5:33 PM PDT
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That depens on your opinion. I get most/all of kills with the needler...not really, but give me a duel wielded needler, and I'll own.

  • 12.01.2006 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: No Refunds
That depens on your opinion. I get most/all of kills with the needler...not really, but give me a duel wielded needler, and I'll own.

*Violently laughs in kidney-damaging laughter.*

Are you freaking serious? Holy crap, the needler is one of the worst weapons in Halo and Halo 2.

  • 12.01.2006 5:07 PM PDT
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Like I said before, it depends on your point of view. I can get more kills with a needler than a BR (and thats not because I suck). People always ask how I killed them with the needler, I don't know why, I just do. For many people I admit it's the worst, but it's one of the best in my book.

  • 12.01.2006 5:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: No Refunds
Like I said before, it depends on your point of view. I can get more kills with a needler than a BR (and thats not because I suck). People* always ask how I killed them with the needler, I don't know why, I just do. For many people I admit it's the worst, but it's one of the best in my book.


*By "People," do you mean your four-year-old cousin who just played the game once?

  • 12.01.2006 5:24 PM PDT
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Sometimes yes, most of the time no. Different people half different stiles of combat, my style is grab two needlers and pump the enemy full of bright pink ass kickness. They're are better weapons that I use, but if I get the chance, I always grab a needler.

  • 12.01.2006 5:32 PM PDT
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Why? One must simply ask, why? It's inaccurate, anybody with half a brain can dodge those needles, it's underpowered, it's the worst weapon to dual-wield with, there are so many better weapons, it just boggles the mind.

  • 12.01.2006 5:33 PM PDT
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Thats exacly what everyone else says. I have no idea why I'm good with it, I just am...

  • 12.01.2006 5:40 PM PDT

I think the starting weapon should be a FLAMETHROWER!!!

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Posted by: No Refunds
Like I said before, it depends on your point of view. I can get more kills with a needler than a BR (and thats not because I suck). People always ask how I killed them with the needler, I don't know why, I just do. For many people I admit it's the worst, but it's one of the best in my book.
People who Snipe without watching their radar? Of course a Needler pair will -blam!- them...but if someone moves, the needles do not track, and if the person is close enough and doesnt know enough to *jump*, dont brag about needler kills...Its not skill on your part it is error on theirs ;)

Like with single magnum kills and things like that, Ive gotten those, but it doesnt make me good/efficient with a magnum, it means that the person i killed made a horrid mistake.

Some weapons (Needler, PP, Magnum) cannot kill someone alone unless the person is not there or drops their controller or something...or they have another half gun like that and your better than them...

  • 12.01.2006 8:30 PM PDT
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This is also really strange, because from my point of view the magnum also kicks major ass....

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It cant even kill in one clip...its decent when paired with an SMG or PR/Brute PR..other than that, its worthless for anything other than a BXR...

  • 12.01.2006 10:17 PM PDT
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See this is whats strange, every gun you people can't do -blam!- with I can kill almost anything with. And no, I kill moving targets with the needler magnum w/e. Not just snipers not whaching they're radar and 9 year old kids on ridilen. You have to learn not to trust the tracking on the needler, treat it like a slow Plasma Rifle and you'll be fine.

  • 12.01.2006 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Its not skill on your part it is error on theirs ;)

Indeed.

Dude, if the day comes we ever play each other on Halo 2 I guarantee I will kick your ass.

  • 12.02.2006 5:35 AM PDT
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I dount dought you will. Your probably alot better than me. But you guys can't just make the assumption that any kill I get with neeldler/magnum/PP/ etc. are on noobs that don't whach they're radar or stay in one place while they shoot. It makes scence that you would guess that the kills were on noobs, but there really is no EVIDENCE that you have. Thus I can prove your "guesses" wrong.

  • 12.02.2006 8:21 AM PDT
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But the needler is so inaccurate and the needles so slow and weak! How could you possibly last with those weapons?

  • 12.02.2006 8:49 AM PDT
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The needler in H2 is only good in campaign. Dual needlers could clear out a whole group of covie bastards in a few seconds. But against thinking targets in multiplayer, it's just another crappy gun.

  • 12.02.2006 9:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: No Refunds
I dount dought you will. Your probably alot better than me. But you guys can't just make the assumption that any kill I get with neeldler/magnum/PP/ etc. are on noobs that don't whach they're radar or stay in one place while they shoot. It makes scence that you would guess that the kills were on noobs, but there really is no EVIDENCE that you have. Thus I can prove your "guesses" wrong.
Welll....lets play a friendly game. I only use SMGs and BRs, you only use Needlers and Plasma Rifles and Magnums (but no dual wielding for either of us)...

My GT is x Sixty Nine, I'll get on if you want to play...

  • 12.02.2006 9:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
My GT is x Sixty Nine, I'll get on if you want to play...

It'd be an honor if I were to play with you, Chee, but I'm not sending a friend request to somebody who has a name which is derived from the term for buttah-secks. I might accept a friend request, however.

  • 12.02.2006 9:45 AM PDT

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