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Subject: Communism
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Dont ask me how i get to this, its a long story which started in a topic about new screenshots, but it went over to an intellectual discussion about the failure of Communism, lets continue that here

  • 05.25.2004 11:55 AM PDT
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I always thought communism worked good...on paper.

  • 05.25.2004 12:04 PM PDT
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on paper it could have worked, but because of the popularity of it, the goverments started to realise they had to do something or else they would loose their power

  • 05.25.2004 12:06 PM PDT
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Coomunisim does not work because the leaders of the nations using it fail to apply it's tenants totally, did you know the second stage of communisim, after the dictatorship of the proletariat, actually becomes a communal democracy.

  • 05.25.2004 12:08 PM PDT
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I don't like communism. Remember the Cultural Revolution?

  • 05.25.2004 12:10 PM PDT
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as long as communism is executed by humans it would never work imo. It's within human nature to persue (spelling correct?) personal advantages, communism, or rather it's ideal, isn't a system that allows such a human characteristic.

P.S.: I don't mean by this that those ideals were bad per sé.

[Edited on 5/25/2004 12:18:29 PM]

  • 05.25.2004 12:17 PM PDT
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about the fase, they're three fases, a tough goverment(which trys to hold up the communism against enemies), the Rebellion which is the most important part to start the whole thing. and as last a non-goverment fase where everybodys free and no rules at all...

  • 05.25.2004 12:27 PM PDT
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i agree that communism will never work as long as it is in the hands of a human.....which is why we must secumb to ROBOT DICTATORS!!!!!!!

  • 05.25.2004 12:43 PM PDT
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You would have to be very, very naive to think a communism would EVER turn out better than The U.S.S.R. or Cuba. It simply doesn't work. It's always corrupted by Stalin-istic facism.

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  • 05.25.2004 12:44 PM PDT
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In my country, communism is alive and well. It is terrible! There are no cars or toilets, only donkeys! donkeys everywhere! I stole this computator from a British pilot that had to stop for a, how do you say... when the plane is out of gas? Comes down for more. I taught myself English with the Mavis Typing Prgram. Anyway, I am a soldier in the undergrond resistance against the communist dogs! I am a... I don't know the word. I sit, unseen, and expose important peoples brains, with the M-1 carbine. It was my grandfather's. ANYWAYS! I am to be new leader when current regime is overthrown! Anren't you excited! I am! If you all come and visit me in my grand palace, we will have halo party! With pizza and dancing girls! Oh, the women in my country are beautiful. They put American women to shame! American women, with their hairless legs and faces, and they're slim figures! Shameful! but anyway, that's a different thread entirely. Now I hope you see why communism is bad!

  • 05.25.2004 12:59 PM PDT
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you've got the point, the reason it failed, will fail, and is failing, is because of us, at one point we have to give up all our differences, power. For some easy for some unthinkable, thats why it will never work, doesnt work and aint working. The problem also is the fact of Socialism which at that time was something different then Communism, the fact that they're the same has been made several times, was helping the people and thus stopping the Verelandung, which was needed for the Revolution. So thats why...

  • 05.25.2004 1:01 PM PDT
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uhm dude, try to stay off the beer while posting stuff, or yoints whatever you've done

  • 05.25.2004 1:04 PM PDT

the only way communism would work is if the entire community was unselfish and the leader was actually fair.

  • 05.25.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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@ meshnaster:

which is exactly the kind of thing that will never, or near to never, happen. Humans are easily corrupted by power (amongst other things)

  • 05.25.2004 1:17 PM PDT
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thats the point where Marx thought of the human kind to good. He saw things coming just as they supposed to be, untill 1917....

  • 05.25.2004 1:24 PM PDT
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This is why when I run my country, it will be a horrible dictatorship! But people will love me, since I will get rid of those stupid DO NOT REMOVE THIS TAG things from matresses. Seriously, what is up with those?

  • 05.25.2004 1:29 PM PDT
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I told you to stay off the beer dude, you know be tha BOB man!!! (bob is a dutch dude who isnt allowed to drink). A drink is allowed but please restrict yourself and stay on topic...

  • 05.25.2004 1:33 PM PDT
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@ ApoX:

actually the BOB campaign was invented in Belgium.

  • 05.25.2004 1:36 PM PDT
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How is talking about my communist country off-topic?

  • 05.25.2004 1:39 PM PDT
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Communism will work and in the future we will hopefully have a global communist goverment. Its not in peoples nature to be selfish that is a result of capitalism. People feel good when they help people out and they feel bad when they screw someone to get a promotion. However no one is going to force communism on anyone, and anyone who doesn't understand communism, or doesn't believe in it shouldn't worry about it. When its wanted enough communist goverments will start to be voted in. Communism has never been applied properly in any country to date, and its unlikely to for another hundred years. People should just leave it be and wait till its a real issue. Real politcal discussions at the moment should be on things like keeping the BNP out (or in if you swing that way), not on an future idealist government that has not being implemented anyway to date. However I think the Halo universe should have a communist government.

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  • 05.25.2004 1:43 PM PDT
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Weird Citizen: You're right, sorry for the problems, it was invented in Belgium yeah

Viktor: Dude is it so hard to just put away the beer!!!!Damnit the country you live in isnt Communism at all!!!

GrenadeGuy:If you read the whole story about Communism then you should know that their should be an Verelandung before the whole thing can start, this Verelandung means that the workers have a terrible life, life which has not seen so terrrible yet. And i dont see that coming for a long time. But in a way your right, the final fase of Communism is great the whole no-goverment is quite attractive for people, but the fases before that???

  • 05.25.2004 1:52 PM PDT
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yey communism democratic bastards!

  • 06.02.2004 8:56 PM PDT
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I'm surprised the mods didn't lock this already.

  • 06.02.2004 8:58 PM PDT

-S

I thought I could watch some TV without some person posting without having read the rules that clearly state NO POLITICS.

Imagine my surprise when I find someone seems to want to have an intelligent conversation, but doesn't seem quick enough to read what is and isn't allowed on this forum first. It makes my head hurt.

  • 06.02.2004 9:23 PM PDT