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I don't think bungie would show the shield grenade without being able to use it in the final build of the game. But then again, where's the single-shot BR?

  • 12.05.2006 11:52 AM PDT

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I don't know if anyone thinks the same as me, but I have watched this trailer several times now... and obviously I guess the master chief is the boy, what about the girl... my opinion is that she is cortana, I reckon that the master chief and her had a relationship before the original Halo. I think that maybe their duty as soldiers got in the way and something happened to cortana that made here the holographic image that she is. It would help to explain the mystery about the way cortana and the mast chief act as they do in halo and 2. I think this also because at the end of halo 2 cortana is left with the grave mind maybe the master chief will disobye orders and attempt to rescue cortana as this would shred light on their relationship. Obviously this is purely my speculation but after playing the previously 'Halo's' I think this would be a good way for the story to go. What do you guys think?


All I can say to you is: Read the books. ;)

Cortana is an AI of Dr. Halsley, not a little girl...


ah, but Dr.Hasley was a little gril at one point wasnt she?

and the little boy couldnt have been john....bungie wouldn't let you see him...even IF it was 40 some years in the past ( read the books)

sheesh i forget how old master chief actually is... *goes and gets Ghosts of Onyx out of red vs blue messenger bag*


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in halo 2 the brutes replaced the elites as honor guards. they get the pretty armor in being the guard. its just their ranked uniform

  • 12.05.2006 11:57 AM PDT

We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.

Posted by: Terminator1733
I don't know if anyone thinks the same as me, but I have watched this trailer several times now... and obviously I guess the master chief is the boy, what about the girl... my opinion is that she is cortana, I reckon that the master chief and her had a relationship before the original Halo. I think that maybe their duty as soldiers got in the way and something happened to cortana that made here the holographic image that she is. It would help to explain the mystery about the way cortana and the mast chief act as they do in halo and 2. I think this also because at the end of halo 2 cortana is left with the grave mind maybe the master chief will disobye orders and attempt to rescue cortana as this would shred light on their relationship. Obviously this is purely my speculation but after playing the previously 'Halo's' I think this would be a good way for the story to go. What do you guys think?


I believe that the girl is another spartan. I can't remember her name, but the one that was the sniper in the cheif's squad.

  • 12.05.2006 12:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan 2424
GoW didnt invent thewepons on back...that sh** started ages ago!!!

understood, but were talking 360 games here, and also a console game.

Also, I have not seen any that are as fluent and real as GoW

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it could be john, my reasoning is becasue you hear is voice echo when he puts on his helm after the wort hog crash. it could be a flash back he was having and wasnt paying attention and he either hit a mine or a missle hit him and hence the wort hog crash. I dont know but just a hunch. the gurl could be kelly. they grew up together on REACH at the militery and sparton traing facility. also you couldnt realy see johns face to well. it was more of a shadow. (i viewd this onthe pc, not on a HD tv) any way those are my thoughts. feel free to join in on the fun and mysteryLOL, ok

  • 12.05.2006 12:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: ValenceElectron
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I don't know if anyone thinks the same as me, but I have watched this trailer several times now... and obviously I guess the master chief is the boy, what about the girl... my opinion is that she is cortana, I reckon that the master chief and her had a relationship before the original Halo. I think that maybe their duty as soldiers got in the way and something happened to cortana that made here the holographic image that she is. It would help to explain the mystery about the way cortana and the mast chief act as they do in halo and 2. I think this also because at the end of halo 2 cortana is left with the grave mind maybe the master chief will disobye orders and attempt to rescue cortana as this would shred light on their relationship. Obviously this is purely my speculation but after playing the previously 'Halo's' I think this would be a good way for the story to go. What do you guys think?


All I can say to you is: Read the books. ;)

Cortana is an AI of Dr. Halsley, not a little girl...


ah, but Dr.Hasley was a little gril at one point wasnt she?

and the little boy couldnt have been john....bungie wouldn't let you see him...even IF it was 40 some years in the past ( read the books)

sheesh i forget how old master chief actually is... *goes and gets Ghosts of Onyx out of red vs blue messenger bag*



Ah...But John never knew what Hasley looked like when she was a kid, so he obviously cant have a flashback with a kid Hasley... oh and another thing, John 117 isnt the same age as hasley, not even close to the same age... so it cant be him laying down next to Hasley... plus its his flashback, so it cant be another boy.... By the way... he's in his 30s...Plus there is a similar moment in the "Fall of Reach" with him and Kelly (or Linda...cant remember) in the woods...

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Posted by: Terminator1733
I don't know if anyone thinks the same as me, but I have watched this trailer several times now... and obviously I guess the master chief is the boy, what about the girl... my opinion is that she is cortana, I reckon that the master chief and her had a relationship before the original Halo. I think that maybe their duty as soldiers got in the way and something happened to cortana that made here the holographic image that she is. It would help to explain the mystery about the way cortana and the mast chief act as they do in halo and 2. I think this also because at the end of halo 2 cortana is left with the grave mind maybe the master chief will disobye orders and attempt to rescue cortana as this would shred light on their relationship. Obviously this is purely my speculation but after playing the previously 'Halo's' I think this would be a good way for the story to go. What do you guys think?


I believe that the girl is another spartan. I can't remember her name, but the one that was the sniper in the cheif's squad.

That would be Linda...

  • 12.05.2006 12:25 PM PDT

We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.

Posted by: Lucks Elixer
well i didnt see the ad, i watched till half time show ended(thats around 1030pm east coast time), maybe next time they can play the ad during pregame show when the east coast is still awake!!!! or try during FOX'S sunday night line up when the people playing the game( kids and teens) and mid to late 20 somethings are actually not pre occupied with weekly life routines, school,work, dealing with new born babies, and so on. Personally I still hold a grudge against microsoft for there constant delays on halo 2. I reserved it a year in advance and still waited an additional 6 months for its release, and for what??? so joe shmow could just go to the store the same day it came out with no reserve but could still pick up the same copy i had!!!!! boo boo boo!!! I'll just wait this time around. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me


Why hold a grudge? Microsoft actually rushed bungie to finish halo 2 in time for the holiday season. As a result of that rushing, there are bugs and balance issues in halo 2 that bungie did not have time to work out. (super bouncing, p*ssy combo{which I am happy to hear is being toned down}, sword flying, lack of a battery on the sword, poor spawning at times) I am glad that they are not being rushed on halo 3. It will make the game that much better when it is finally released.

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Ah...But John never knew what Hasley looked like when she was a kid, so he obviously cant have a flashback with a kid Hasley... oh and another thing, John 117 isnt the same age as hasley, not even close to the same age... so it cant be him laying down next to Hasley... plus its his flashback, so it cant be another boy.... By the way... he's in his 30s...Plus there is a similar moment in the "Fall of Reach" with him and Kelly (or Linda...cant remember) in the woods...

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yup i thought it was kelly though. liek i said in my earlyer post. he was flashbackin and wasnt payingattention and BOOM he either was hit or hit a mine and it caused the accident. plus it echos in his head like 3 times.. its gotta be john. he was always the curious and smart one of the group.

  • 12.05.2006 12:27 PM PDT

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Look, just talk to me. I'm sure we'll get along.

Dude, the commercial is awesome.

  • 12.05.2006 12:47 PM PDT
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The novel books and DVDs mention the Chief to be around 40. 20 or 30 would be too young. Chief is a veteran soldier, not some young buck hot shot. He was been around the military for 34 years, this is why he is so good. A true seasoned veteran.

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  • 12.05.2006 12:50 PM PDT

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Ok here's my explanation of the trailer that may help clear up some ideas: MC is knocked out by a wrath mortar that hit his warthog on the way to the ARK, evidence from the circular cloud in the sky, then he has a flashback of him and another girl, Kelly or Linda, most likely Kelly though because I thought I read in one of the books that Linda had red hair and green eyes and that girl did not (It is not Dr. Hasley because the first time they meet is when Hasley kidnaps him for the spartan program, she is much older then). This flashback has to take place NOT ON EARTH because John never visited earth when he was a kid. It is most likely Reach during one of their training sessions, evidence from the black suits they are wearing. John then wakes up to the battle on earth and the place he gets up just happens to be similar to the place in his flash back, but desolate. He then continues his approach to the ARC and still dazed from the attack he hears Kelly say "time to go" then Cortana says "Chief leave me". Now here is where I am confused, Does anyone who has read the books know of a point where Kelly says "chief leave me" to John?

  • 12.05.2006 1:03 PM PDT

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sonofa-blam!- spartan2424 did it again...i rememeber that scene with John and kelly in the woods...during the practice mission where they stoned the unsc soldiers guarding the pelicans.....damnit i hate being out smarted by another halo-er
its good to know there are other ppl like me ( a halo fanatic) out there

  • 12.05.2006 1:06 PM PDT

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well....the flash back ...and the actual location of chief...they dont have to be the same....if you notice where the helmet is... before and after the explosion that rips the flashback apart.... there is less grass, and its all sandy...so.....the flash back takes place on reach...then he come back to reality on earth.....underfire...and seamingly screwed....
and another thing....for those of you who love Eric Nylund... Eric does something that i really admire.... he really goes into how John uses his spartan training. The thoughts that go through 117's head... Makes him seem....real...
in the game though....He's no better than a real lucky marine...running around shooting...there is no real strategy....in fact the only time i TRULY felt like a spartan was Assault on the control Room. When you were able to succesfully sneak around the circular blue room....quick and silently a user can run around kill everything...with out so much of an *ugh* comming from a grunts mouth....thats what being a spartan is all about...
Think bungie...Think like a Spartan. Spartans arent all muscle...they have Brain power too

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exactly the flah back is when they are in traing at reach. him and i wanna say kelly are just chillin on the grass. and then the explsosion happens and chief is on earth trying to protect the arc or whatever. yes i have to agree with the way nylund describes john. john like i said was always the smartest and most curious. look at his leadership skills in the fall of reach when they are youngins and they all have part of the map and he tells everyone to meet at a point on the map..

  • 12.05.2006 1:28 PM PDT

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and another thing....for those of you who love Eric Nylund... Eric does something that i really admire.... he really goes into how John uses his spartan training. The thoughts that go through 117's head... Makes him seem....real...
in the game though....He's no better than a real lucky marine...running around shooting...there is no real strategy....in fact the only time i TRULY felt like a spartan was Assault on the control Room. When you were able to succesfully sneak around the circular blue room....quick and silently a user can run around kill everything...with out so much of an *ugh* comming from a grunts mouth....thats what being a spartan is all about...
Think bungie...Think like a Spartan. Spartans arent all muscle...they have Brain power too


I agree, I think that they need to make the game more tactical and not just running around and killing everything in sight. However, I think that Bungie may have realized this already (and if they have not, they should) and are going to use the X button for something that will make the gameplay more tactical- like a cover system or a sprint function (I don't want them to take it too far though and turn the game into solving puzzles). They need to make MC more able to get pwned and a better AI that actually force you to think and not just run out a pepper the Covenant with bullets.

  • 12.05.2006 1:33 PM PDT
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The actual gameplay in the missions, most of the stragtegy is already figured out for you, like in the cutscenes. Halo is FPS, not a RPG. Although i admit that some more strategic elements should be available, but not necesarily forced. For example, maybe a sprint/adrenaline type thing that would allow Chief to make a last dive or sprint, and possible some sort of dodge/climbing/acrobatics feature. For general pwning.
This just may be part of the vid used for dramatic effect, but the stunned, state that the Chief was in after the bomb, that may foreshadow some sort of similar thing in the game as well. Just a speculation.
Also, has anyone figured out what was said just before the chief fully recovered?
some of the dialogue as he got up seemed like it actually said something.

  • 12.05.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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but peppering is fun.LOL
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WTF is my sig.i made one where did it go

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  • 12.05.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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exactly the flah back is when they are in traing at reach. him and i wanna say kelly are just chillin on the grass. and then the explsosion happens and chief is on earth trying to protect the arc or whatever. yes i have to agree with the way nylund describes john. john like i said was always the smartest and most curious. look at his leadership skills in the fall of reach when they are youngins and they all have part of the map and he tells everyone to meet at a point on the map..
John was never actually smartest, curious, yes, but other then his curiousity and natural leadership skills he was merely and above average spartan. He was not the best fighter, not the fastest, not the smartest, not the most accurate, but he was damn well the best leader.

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LOL true, fred was pretty smart, so was linda. maybe insted of smart it could be wise because to be a good leader you need to have some witts bout ya.lol. im just glad that im halfway understanding all this halo stuff. lol i have only read fall of reach. i do have t admit though its sooo much liek the bible. interactive bible study my friends.lol

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Posted by: SlycerZERO
Ok here's my explanation of the trailer that may help clear up some ideas: MC is knocked out by a wrath mortar that hit his warthog on the way to the ARK, evidence from the circular cloud in the sky, then he has a flashback of him and another girl, Kelly or Linda, most likely Kelly though because I thought I read in one of the books that Linda had red hair and green eyes and that girl did not (It is not Dr. Hasley because the first time they meet is when Hasley kidnaps him for the spartan program, she is much older then). This flashback has to take place NOT ON EARTH because John never visited earth when he was a kid. It is most likely Reach during one of their training sessions, evidence from the black suits they are wearing. John then wakes up to the battle on earth and the place he gets up just happens to be similar to the place in his flash back, but desolate. He then continues his approach to the ARC and still dazed from the attack he hears Kelly say "time to go" then Cortana says "Chief leave me". Now here is where I am confused, Does anyone who has read the books know of a point where Kelly says "chief leave me" to John?



Ok I think that there must be some loop-hole here somewhere because after watching the CG trailer and seeing the pistol holder, and then watching the announcement trailer and NOT seeing a pistol holder, there must have been a screw up at that Hollywood CG place, or John 117 is NOT on his way to the ARK. But then i see the sworming clouds in the sky that has lightning up the ying-yang coming out of it. So i conclude either a mess up at Bungie, Hollywood yoohow CG Master place(w/e the heck its called), or us.

Leave any comment, idc, I might have forgotten or screwed up somewhere.

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dude i missed it last night but i got it on my myspace now so if u go u can watch it :

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprof ile&friendid=46460493

the beginning was kinda stupid but the rest was awsome i wish i could just go up there and learn more about halo 3 hurry and put it in stores for the love of ur fans!!!!

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OK if you look closely when he says "not yet" you can see an 0 on his viser. another easter egg? Maybe its trying to tell you that halo 3 is coming out on/or close to easter!!!!

  • 12.05.2006 1:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: SlycerZERO
Ok here's my explanation of the trailer that may help clear up some ideas: MC is knocked out by a wrath mortar that hit his warthog on the way to the ARK, evidence from the circular cloud in the sky, then he has a flashback of him and another girl, Kelly or Linda, most likely Kelly though because I thought I read in one of the books that Linda had red hair and green eyes and that girl did not (It is not Dr. Hasley because the first time they meet is when Hasley kidnaps him for the spartan program, she is much older then). This flashback has to take place NOT ON EARTH because John never visited earth when he was a kid. It is most likely Reach during one of their training sessions, evidence from the black suits they are wearing. John then wakes up to the battle on earth and the place he gets up just happens to be similar to the place in his flash back, but desolate. He then continues his approach to the ARC and still dazed from the attack he hears Kelly say "time to go" then Cortana says "Chief leave me". Now here is where I am confused, Does anyone who has read the books know of a point where Kelly says "chief leave me" to John?



Ok I think that there must be some loop-hole here somewhere because after watching the CG trailer and seeing the pistol holder, and then watching the announcement trailer and NOT seeing a pistol holder, there must have been a screw up at that Hollywood CG place, or John 117 is NOT on his way to the ARK. But then i see the sworming clouds in the sky that has lightning up the ying-yang coming out of it. So i conclude either a mess up at Bungie, Hollywood yoohow CG Master place(w/e the heck its called), or us.

Leave any comment, idc, I might have forgotten or screwed up somewhere.


I think that for the CG trailer they are using one of the later spartan models. At the time of the E3 announcement trailer the spartan model was not revised as much as it is now, but both trailers are meant to meld together, CG before the ARC and E3 announcement trailer after he leaves the ARC

  • 12.05.2006 2:01 PM PDT