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Posted by: ash55
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
What you're seeing is disgruntled fans. And seeing as how people notice the anamolies, they get a little more attention than the actual fans, because we want to see why they aren't satisfied with their products.
They have a right to. Sometimes it's a good thing, because Bungie can see what's wrong. The bad part is that after the explanation and debate is over, if the ranting still continues, then it's just whining, that's all.
I consider myself a die-hard fan, I appreciate all the work Bungie has done.
As do I. I find their efforts of pleasing the fans to be noble, to say the least. I mean, when it's all said and done, it's still just a video game we're talking about here. But it's the dedication to the common people that makes Bungie so unique.
That's not to say they don't have flaws, because they do. But for what it's worth, they do what they do well.
But... unless you are 110% satisfied with everything, you're not an 'actual' fan? Voicing valid concerns automatically means you're no longer an 'actual' fan?
Nah, not quite. I don't think that.
There are plenty of flaws with Bungie and the way they handle things. That's why they expect people to help them find these flaws, and possibly help fix them. And it's because of us why they're even here today. So any problems we have should be at least aknowledged, and they more or less are. Voicing these problems doesn't make you any less of a fan.
Please define this 'over' point also. Seeing as anything said past this point constitutes as 'whining', I must know for future reference.
Whenever someone has a problem on this site and they ask for an admin's point of view, that's when a giant debate begins. We've seen this before in plenty of threads.
What happens is someone makes the thread, an admin (usually Achronos) replies with a response, then said thread creator starts breaking up each paragraph with a response to his, and then it goes back and forth for a while.
And along the way, the answer is delievered as to why Bungie did the particular thing in question. But the thread creator wants more. He wants to pick apart words and posts, even when the answer has been given. Why? Beats me. If I have a question and someone gives me an answer, I'll respond to it, highlight the parts I don't understand, then leave the discussion with my questions answered. But all too often I've seen people just drag out discussions for 10 pages even though the answer has been given.
Point-making satire aside, a gold stamp doesn't equal a 'done' thread. It simply means there has been official commentary. There are plenty of other issues that can't be wrapped up in a single post, especially in regards to member opinions (occasionally the lack thereof), not Bungie.
I agree with you on that. Just because Achronos responds to a thread doesn't mean it's over by any means. But when the question has been answered, and someone continues to drag out the discussion, then it's no longer a discussion.
Take button glitch threads (hate to use this as an example.) Button glitch threads exploded a while back, with two sides continually arguing. Until one day Achronos stopped by a big one, and gave official word on why it's cheating. The thread creator debates for clarity, and ends up being wrong anyway. But for some reason, he insisted on carrying the discussion way longer than it should have been and it ended up being a back and forth arguement on a moot topic.
I have no problem with people who disagree with Bungie decisions. There are a lot things they could improve on, but when they give word on why something is done for a particular reason, and people respond just to argue the same thing over and over, that's what makes it whining (in my opinion.)