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Subject: Halo 1 Pistol vs 2 smg
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Please debate!!

In halo1 you could spawn on blood gultch and actually shoot at a sniper in the hills. (with the pistol obviously) In halo2 when you spawn with 2 smg and the other guy has a sniper seriously what chance do you have to win that one ?? ?

Now dont bash the pistol just because you werent good with it. Im simply stating to include both the pistol and smg, Why not ? Since its supposedly the last installment of halo include all the weapons from both games including the pc.. The fuel Rod seriously kicked some azz.

Also many of times in Halo1 you could pull off so many across the map kills on a moving warthog trying to escape with the flag with the rocket launcher. I mean seriously If you have ever hit a leet shot with it you prolly screamed and let everyone know about it,. In halo 2 this just didnt happen.

So for all you pistol haterz out there please tell me why You hate the pistol and why you love the Duel wielding Nub smg. Ide love to duel wield the halo1 pistol but you would be dead in 1 1/2 shots. :) oops wrong thread,.,.

[Edited on 12/11/2006]

  • 12.11.2006 9:35 PM PDT
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Who says I love the SMG, when I played halo 2 I basically lived on the battle rifle, but never the shotty since I never got host.

  • 12.11.2006 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: staticx57
Who says I love the SMG, when I played halo 2 I basically lived on the battle rifle, but never the shotty since I never got host.


Same as me.

  • 12.11.2006 11:35 PM PDT
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The SMG does not replace the pistol. At all. The battle rifle does that. If we're going to play Halo 2, we're going to do it with battle rifle starts, thankyouverymuch.

  • 12.12.2006 11:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rooo
Please debate!!

In halo1 you could spawn on blood gultch and actually shoot at a sniper in the hills. (with the pistol obviously) In halo2 when you spawn with 2 smg and the other guy has a sniper seriously what chance do you have to win that one ?? ?

Slim.

Posted by: Rooo
Now dont bash the pistol just because you werent good with it. Im simply stating to include both the pistol and smg, Why not ? Since its supposedly the last installment of halo include all the weapons from both games including the pc.. The fuel Rod seriously kicked some azz.

Um, excuse me? We play the first game here, what makes you think we'd bash the pistol? Rather, we bash people with the pistol. But that's not my point.

I think you forget that the battle rifle has replaced the M6D. Surely that is a preposterous idea - bringing back the pistol from the first game. The battle rifle is there for a reason. Adding the M6C from the second game as a starting weapon wouldn't do much either as a starting weapon.

By the way, you're absolutely right. What an awesome, balanced weapon the fuel rod gun was. Yeah, it was the best weapon in the game, for sure, it took so much skill to use, after all! Joking. :)

Posted by: Rooo
Also many of times in Halo1 you could pull off so many across the map kills on a moving warthog trying to escape with the flag with the rocket launcher. I mean seriously If you have ever hit a leet shot with it you prolly screamed and let everyone know about it,. In halo 2 this just didnt happen.

Yeah, I've done that before, it's highly satisfying. But I doubt there's much we could do about it in Halo 2 once it comes to PC. Eh, just go with the flow, is what I say.

"Remember kids, the rocket launcher is a fire-and-forget weapon; fire, and forget that it took no skill."

Posted by: Rooo
So for all you pistol haterz out there please tell me why You hate the pistol and why you love the Duel wielding Nub smg. Ide love to duel wield the halo1 pistol but you would be dead in 1 1/2 shots. :) oops wrong thread,.,.

I said it earlier, but none of us here hate the pistol. This isn't New Mombasa. In fact, if you don't like/use the pistol, then you yoursef are a noob. And if you dual wield it doesn't mean you're a nub, nub. :)

  • 12.12.2006 12:26 PM PDT
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SMG alone isn't that good, but when you put it together with ANY other duel weildable weapon it kicks more ass than almost anything else. The SMG is the best duel weildable weapon, hands dwon.

  • 12.12.2006 12:33 PM PDT
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I dont see how this is even a debate, unless of course your talking about the Halo 2 crap excuse for a pistol.

Halo 1 Pistol > Halo 2's SMG

Period.

  • 12.12.2006 12:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: punkbassist8916
I dont see how this is even a debate, unless of course your talking about the Halo 2 crap excuse for a pistol.

The pistol was actually a decent weapon in Halo 2, dual-wielded or not - that is until Bungie released an update which nerfed it.

  • 12.12.2006 12:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
By the way, you're absolutely right. What an awesome, balanced weapon the fuel rod gun was. Yeah, it was the best weapon in the game, for sure, it took so much skill to use, after all! Joking. :)


I love that comic! It's hilarious.

Anyways, from what I've seen and herd so far, it seems that Halo 1 pistol> SMG. But I'm not completly convinsed, since I managed to beat most of Ciro(sp?) Station with a dual wielded SMG. It was on easy, but still, I'm teh sux0rz with the Xbox controler on any dificulty.

  • 12.12.2006 1:21 PM PDT
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SMG useful? How is throwing popcorn at enemies useful?

This is really the one forum that still thinks H1>H2. For now....Halo 2 vistaers are invading slowly....

  • 12.12.2006 3:30 PM PDT
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I lived on Duel Needlers when I could find them. Never lost a match with my trusty pink pummelers...

  • 12.12.2006 4:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: darekster2ongame
I died on Duel Needlers when I could find them. Never won a match with my unreliable pink pummelers...

Fixed.

  • 12.12.2006 5:50 PM PDT
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well some of us don't like the damn battle rifle we perfer the smg,needler(favorite),plama rifle(not brute).and both snipers and carbine

  • 12.12.2006 6:10 PM PDT
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gimme dual brute plasma rifles any day and i will pwndizzle all of you.

  • 12.12.2006 6:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: MikeM709
gimme dual brute plasma rifles any day and i will pwndizzle all of you.

Give me a sniper rifle and you will be watching the respawn timer faster than you can say, "No scoped!"

  • 12.12.2006 6:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: MikeM709
gimme dual brute plasma rifles any day and i will pwndizzle all of you.

Give me a sniper rifle and you will be watching the respawn timer faster than you can say, "No scoped!"


Give me a needler and listen to yourself cursing on how you got NeedleBoomedâ„¢ from across the map...

  • 12.12.2006 6:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: darekster2ongame
Give me a needler and listen to yourself chuckling on how you got NeedleMissedâ„¢ from across the map...

Fixed.

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  • 12.12.2006 6:22 PM PDT
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Sorry, I guess i should be clear, Originally I was talking about Matchmaking were spawning with the battle rifle was not an option.. Notice at the end I state oops wrong forums, I ment it to go in the section for xbox. Anywho or whom. Look forwardz to pwning jewz or jooz in the near Future.

  • 12.12.2006 7:44 PM PDT
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umm...ok.

But anyway, in both games, the needler is more of a support weapon/flanking weapon. Going one on one, needler vs. whatever else, needler will probably lose without grenades, melees, etc.

However, caught off guard, a needler in Halo 1 is amazing at blowing enemies into...uhh 1 piece i guess. Halo 2 needlers don't really have the nice explosion, but can be dual-wielded. That doesn't make up for it in my opinion though.

  • 12.12.2006 10:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rooo
Originally I was talking about Matchmaking were spawning with the battle rifle was not an option..

Ever heard of Team Hardcore?

  • 12.13.2006 3:44 AM PDT
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Wow you amaze me with your idiocracy. When the game came out was there a team hardcore ? or did it take them a long time to implement this. Thats what I thought. But since you brought up the battle rifle. What chance do you have vs a sniper at long range. None... With the pistol you could 3shot his beach arse.

  • 12.13.2006 10:50 AM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. You are destiny.

Something tells me this should be moved to New Mombasa. Wtf, mate? Dude sounds like you were debating with New Mombasa guys. We don't hate the pistol, and we don't exactly Dual-Wield Submachine Guns.

  • 12.13.2006 10:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rooo
Wow you amaze me with your idiocracy. When the game came out was there a team hardcore ? or did it take them a long time to implement this. Thats what I thought. But since you brought up the battle rifle. What chance do you have vs a sniper at long range. None... With the pistol you could 3shot his beach arse.

Please tell me you're joking. You fail, good sir, idiocracy is not a word. Or at least it isn't defined the way you're using it.

I'm not saying that your idea is bad in anyway, but it's highly unlikely that it's going to happen. The M6D pistol is gone, get it? It's been replaced by the battle rifle. A pistol is supposed to be a backup weapon, and Bungie finally got that in the second game. Learn how to use a battle rifle.

  • 12.13.2006 11:48 AM PDT
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Meh... In halo 2 i just nade the crap out of everybody.....

  • 12.13.2006 4:14 PM PDT

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