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Subject: Who are Better PC or Console Gamers?
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Ok, my friend and I have been having this ongoing debate weather Console (Xbox, PS2, Gamecube) gamers are better than PC Gamers. I belive that Console gamers are better (Skillwise) than PC gamers. He says that PC gamers have been around longer and are more "hard core" than Console gamers. Among other, less important things we decided to have a Competition.
My ideas was to have a 1v1 on a PC, Him vs Me, Halo 2 on Windows Vista. My idea was to purchase the Xbox 360 controlled made for the PC, and have him buy Halo 2 for the PC on Windows Vista. I will give him 1 Months time to get used to the game.
What I need advide for is Strategy, Map, Gametype, ect. I think we will play at Lockout with MLG settings because of fairness. But, since he is new he might not realize that duals are so good. This game may be a split screen game so "screen looking" may be a problem, but his brother has an adquite computer. Also I am not sure that Halo will require more than one disc to play LAN matches, if it dosen't we will just play a LAN match instead. Button combos are probably going to be taken out of Halo 2 for PC so I might just need to practise without them. My legit ranks are Rumble Pit: 32, Double Team: 29 (Could get higher), Tema Slayer 42 (Yes, it's legit), and Team Snipers 32. I don't think skill is the issue if I lost. So I need you're advice on Stratigies to take against him.

[NOTE: He has a really expensive gaming computer, so speed won't be an issue. I think he has a dell XPS something.]

  • 12.12.2006 9:39 PM PDT
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Ranks [face_tired]. honestly, if you want to know who are better, console games or PC gamers go play unreal tournament with instagib, lets see how fast that thumbstick really moves.

And since this is the PC forums, ill be rooting for the mouse and keyboard, not that it matters since halo 2 takes no skill compared to the original halo.

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  • 12.12.2006 9:45 PM PDT

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we r?

I think pc gamers


and I prefer keyboard/mouse over controller, once I get vista and halo 2 pc, I'll play you

  • 12.12.2006 10:01 PM PDT
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split screen on a pc? I doubt it. Controllers are much harder to use, but does that mean that those who use them are more skilled? Not really. There's no definite definition.

  • 12.12.2006 10:50 PM PDT
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PC gamers have more skill hands down. The ONLY reason you are "good" with a controller is auto-aim (or aim assist, or bullet magnetism). PC gamers do not have auto-aim meaning they utilize more skill than a console. Plus consoles are only dumbed down comps because all they do is play games and nothing else. PCs are much more sophisticated and take much more skill to use. In conclusion, PC>Console and Keyboard and mouse w/o auto-aim> gamepads with auto aim.

  • 12.12.2006 11:59 PM PDT
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Yeah, but I, a PC gamer, find Autoaim in consoles REALLY annoying, as it slows the movement of the aiming, so it takes longer to get to the head.

  • 12.13.2006 12:19 AM PDT
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Dude, seriously. This is a PC gaming forum, you're obviously going to get a biased answer.

There is no contest. PCs > consoles in virtually every way, shape, and form. Better games, better online communities, superior hardware, and of course, the mouse and keyboard. That's why we get a kickass game like Crysis and the Xbox 360 or the PS3 does not. When a PC game is ported to a console, it is nothing like the experience on the PC. What people say about consoles like "but we hav bettr crappix!!1!!!" is bull. Once DirectX 10 comes out next year, along with Windows Vista, PC gaming is going to make the Xbox 360 and the PS3 look like baby toys; their games will look like eight-bit NES titles.

  • 12.13.2006 3:42 AM PDT
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Guys, he's asking for strategies on how to play Lockout on H2Vista when it comes out. Not whether console players or PC gamers are better in this case. Read the topic.

  • 12.13.2006 6:04 AM PDT

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we r?

sorry, mis read it.

just strafe snipe, try to stay in darkness or behind cover, etc

  • 12.13.2006 7:27 AM PDT
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Agreed, Halo2 vista will actually require more skill than halo2 xbox due to the lack of auto aim on pc. The ogre's tried to play hpc and never worked out for them.. as well as KillerN who was pro on h1

  • 12.13.2006 10:55 AM PDT
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If Halo 2 Vista has Aim-Assist for the controller, use a different game to compare.

But seriously, I can't even imagine playing Counter-Strike using a controller....

  • 12.13.2006 11:13 AM PDT
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Guys, he's asking for strategies on how to play Lockout on H2Vista when it comes out. Not whether console players or PC gamers are better in this case. Read the topic.

Um, I did, and he clearly says so.

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Ok, my friend and I have been having this ongoing debate weather Console (Xbox, PS2, Gamecube) gamers are better than PC Gamers. I belive that Console gamers are better (Skillwise) than PC gamers. He says that PC gamers have been around longer and are more "hard core" than Console gamers.

Actually, both of you are right and wrong, but your friend is more right than he is wrong. How do you think that console gamers are better (skill wise)? You need supporting details.

Since we're not talking about whether or not computers or consoles and their games are superior to each other, but instead we're talking about whether or not the gamers that play the systems are superior to each other, I'll leave the PC vs. Console discussion out of this as best as I can. (Though it's clear that the PC is superior. :P)

In my opinion, no, computer gamers are more superior in terms of skill than those who play on consoles. In Halo 2, there is a severe amount of auto-aim, with unbalanced weapons. You'd rarely see something like this on PC games like Counter-Strike, Quake III, and in other shooters.

Not to mention, the hinderance of gameplay known as a gamepad in first-person shooters, MMOG's, and RTS titles cannot match the response time, the graceful precision, flexibility, or the accuracy of a mouse and keyboard.

Having said that, now, you may think, "Well then, that means that gamers who play on consoles are better skill-wise!" Wrong. Gimping yourself does not necessarily mean that it makes you more skilled. There's a difference between making things more difficult for yourself to have a good challenge and limiting your skills and potential.

For example: in Halo 2, you can handicap yourself by lowering your shields and damage by half. That doesn't limit you, you're still you, and overtime it can actually build up one's skill as you learn to fight against superior odds.

However, if you fight with a controller, there's little room for improvement. There is a certain point in Halo 2 when anybody can easily get a consistent four-shot kill, and it's all about who gets the better weapons first, and most importantly, who spawns near them. Then it is no longer about skill.

  • 12.13.2006 12:06 PM PDT
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Asking this question in the Halo PC forum insures a very biased answer.

  • 12.14.2006 1:14 PM PDT

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apparently in Shadowrun The console players take the CQC matchups and the PC guys the sniping battles

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  • 12.14.2006 3:17 PM PDT

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That's like comparing figure skaters to speed skaters. They are different.

PCs > Consoles though because of no auto-aim and crap

  • 12.14.2006 3:45 PM PDT
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I say PC gamers are better since they can easily adapt to new consoles easily. Console players can be good at games, but the PCers are the ones who are in command. It takes more skill on PC in my opinion.

  • 12.14.2006 3:51 PM PDT
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Yesh, I agree that PC gamers are better than console gamers.

  • 12.14.2006 4:11 PM PDT
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Well, I enjoy both consoles and PCs. I'm much better at console Halo 1, than PC Halo 1 just because I'm more comfortable with a controller. But I don't like when either bias side says that the other side takes no skill or they're garbage, etc. I mean, if the controller support for H2V is like the console, I'll probably be better than if I use a keyboard/mouse

  • 12.14.2006 4:21 PM PDT

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Halo 1 xbox on legendary took me one week to complete.

Halo PC on legendary took me less than a day to complete.

It really depends on the gamer. I know some people who play better with a controller than a keyboard/mouse.

And you want strategy for the game? Just play some halo 2 vista online for 3 weeks when it comes out. It will make you a much better player. You cant be told strategy, you have to learn it from experience.

  • 12.15.2006 12:08 AM PDT
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how many of these threads have been made in gaming history....too many to count

  • 12.16.2006 8:42 AM PDT
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i think pc gamers are better because i am a pc gamer of halo

  • 12.16.2006 9:38 AM PDT

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Play one game on Halo PC, KB/M vs KB/M.
Play one game on Halo Xbox, Controller vs Controller.
Play one game on Halo 2, Controller vs Controller.
Play one game on Halo 2 Vista, KB/M vs KB/M.

If it's a tie (you win both Xbox, he wins both PC) then add up the points (kill/death ratios) and see who did better (who went positive/more positive than the other)

  • 12.16.2006 9:47 AM PDT

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If your going to be playing on Lockout I suggest a shotgun. Espically if your going to LAN it.

  • 12.16.2006 11:01 AM PDT
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To answer the who's better, who are better athletes, football players or basketball players? Different (yet similar) skills, both have advantages and disadvantages.

For Lockout 1 v 1, the best place to be is on top of the BR Tower. It's very open but has good cover spots, easy retreat spots (learn how to jump from the top of the tower to near where Sword spawns and the ramp between the Library and the middle of the tower) and great visibility (use the high walls to jump and see further and more of the sniper tower and the ramps leading up to you).

Your first priority should be getting the sword. If you spawn anywhere in the BR Tower or Library, get it immediately. If you spawn at the Sniper Tower, grab the sniper rifle (be sure to safely blow up the barrels first or you're a sitting duck) and if you spawn in the Blue Room, grab the shotgun. Once you've got the shotty, make your way to the Sword spawn - either it's there and you'll trade up or you'll have to kill him with your shotgun, but learn the timing to kill a sword user and it's easy.

Once you have Sword, work your way over to the Sniper Tower and pick up the sniper rifle. From there, it's a quick jump into the Library and a short run to the top of the BR Tower. Now, you have the best long-range weapon and your biggest advantage (Sniping is easier on PC) and the perfect weapon for holding the tower, the sword. Use sniper to cover the top of the map. Be sure to check your radar and look (jump on the walls and look down) in case he's crouching. Don't wait for him to come up top - jump over and lunge at him for easy kills.

Good luck

  • 12.16.2006 3:45 PM PDT

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I think pc gamers are more hardcore and more obsessed but i preffer a controller over a mouse and keyboard

  • 12.16.2006 4:42 PM PDT

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