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Mother pus bucket!

First and foremost, congrats to Marty for a job well done and thanks for allowing us to own your work.

Now I'd like to echo what several people have already said: the complaining in here is unbelievable.

* If you decide not to use the iTunes service, that's your choice. I would assume it's the most popular legitimate means of distributing music online so why wouldn't they use it?

* If you're upset because they're charging for the file, ask yourself 'why shouldn't they charge?'. Writing music is Marty's livelihood and he deserves compensation. IMO, griping about paying $0.99 for this file is an insult to him.

* If you can't scrape together $0.99, come over to my house and I'll let you root around under my couch cushions.

The only legit issue I've seen here is the people who can't get the file from their country's iTunes store. I've experienced that myself so I know it's a pain... but I have no doubt it'll get your way soon enough.

Perhaps you'd all be happy if Bungie sent someone to your house to personally hand-deliver the file in gold-plated, velvet-lined box? No... the delivery guy would probably be wearing the wrong colour shoes or something. Life doesn't always unfold the way you want... get used to it and you'll be a much happier person. Despite what you've obviously heard, the squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease.

Thanks again for the great track. I'm done.

  • 12.15.2006 5:32 AM PDT
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What about people from countries where iTunes isn't available? Like Poland for example.

  • 12.15.2006 6:18 AM PDT
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I don't want to pay for a song =((((( i hate paying for any song because you can mostly download it for free anyway(frostwire/torrents) :p o well I'll just wont listen then ^_^

  • 12.15.2006 6:38 AM PDT
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Whats with all this negativity? My head hurts.. I was going to type lol here, but seriously...

  • 12.15.2006 7:06 AM PDT

DEEP NNN = Depends

Clan 2old2pwn on 2old2play.

Don't let yesterday use up too much of today.

I really do want to hear this piece of music but like many have said, not though DRM controlled software. Not at a cost either.

Bungie and MS have been successfully stimulating my interest in Halo 2 and Halo 3 with paid content enhancements and free multimedia advertisments. I feel these are legitimate tactics to use to retain my interest level in Halo. I see this soundtrack content as another stimulus that should be a free multimedia advertisment.

I'm impatiently waiting for the new Halo 2 maps and the big kahuna, Halo 3. I'm quite prepared to pay for those and XBL to play them on. I feel a little taken advantage of by tantalizing me with this for pay teaser. Please don't try to bleed me dry while I await the next game which will entertain me for two years, as Halo 2 has done. You've got me on the hook, don't play me to death.

Thank you.

  • 12.15.2006 7:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: Muzza
Or you could just get a mp3 recorder that records sound off your sound card and play the trailer


Or you could just rip the audio from the movie using Qucktime Pro... but this is vastly different from that. It's not mixed for a trailer, it's mixed as a piece of stand-alone music, not to mention the absence of the dialog and sound effects present in the trailer itself.


Werd Hommie.That's tellin 'em cheepsters a thing or two.

  • 12.15.2006 9:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: DEEP NNN

Bungie and MS have been successfully stimulating my interest in Halo 2 and Halo 3 with paid content enhancements and free multimedia advertisments. I feel these are legitimate tactics to use to retain my interest level in Halo. I see this soundtrack content as another stimulus that should be a free multimedia advertisment.

I'm impatiently waiting for the new Halo 2 maps and the big kahuna, Halo 3. I'm quite prepared to pay for those and XBL to play them on. I feel a little taken advantage of by tantalizing me with this for pay teaser. Please don't try to bleed me dry while I await the next game which will entertain me for two years, as Halo 2 has done. You've got me on the hook, don't play me to death.

Thank you.


Very good point.Why pay for something now, that's gonna cost us again when we buy the game.

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I was looking around for the Cairo Suite on iTunes and saw this, and with a "wtf" I downloaded it...

  • 12.15.2006 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: apollo1975
* If you decide not to use the iTunes service, that's your choice. I would assume it's the most popular legitimate means of distributing music online so why wouldn't they use it?


because Itunes ONLY works with ipods. And many people don't have Ipods. In addition, those with ipods, are restricted to ONLY using itunes.

Why not, like put it on the Zune marketplace as well, which might actually work with all the PlaysForSure music players.

Also, to download songs from itunes, you have to have an account. And to have an account, you have to submit card details. A lot of people still don't like the idea of transmitting there card details over the internet.

While neither of those are a problem for me (i have a visa card, which most places will accept) i do understand the choice or worry that some people have. And while it is a choice, it is one some people make out of security.

And while we're on the subject of itunes; I personally don't like how Apple make you install itunes when you upgrade your version of quicktime. Also, for me, Itunes is useless. When i ripped my library to to my PC, i did so in wma format, as it is compatible with all my devices and audio quality is pretty good.

Of course, Itunes doesn't like WMAs, so has to convert them all to a format it likes (which is odd, as it can convert them, but not play them?). If i did so to Mp3, i would then have duplicates in my WMP11 playlist, which is annoying, and then if i convert to AAC, i have a set of songs that can ONLY play in Itunes. As i don't have an Ipod (nor want one).

But, you might say, why not just convert to mp3 then delete the wmas? Converted songs are always lower quality than their original encoding, and with the amount of songs i have (at the bitrate they are) it would take DAYS to convert it all. And even longer if I deleted it all and ripped them from CD again.

Try to understand both sides of an dispute before you creating a big straw man argument.

And besides, I've had a rip of the audio from the trailer (in 5.1 no less) for ages. Which is more than adequate for me until the soundtrack comes out, which will undoubtably have a better price/song ratio, than buying a single track. As well as having hard copy.

To sum up: great song. Nice for those who have ipods, but not for me.

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  • 12.15.2006 10:06 AM PDT
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I want to complain too.

Except I don't care about Zune... anyone who bought a Zune gets what they deserve. But why the -blamity!-blamity!-blam!- wouldn't you make it available for download via the Live Marketplace?

In the end all you're doing is disappointing your more frugle fans - because it takes all of about 5 minutes to re-record it from the wave out analog and it'll show up on the net within a few days.

  • 12.15.2006 10:24 AM PDT

"lucky one"

Wow, I thought that by getting a Zune I was assured to get all the MS/Halo stuff? WTF is this kind of betrayal?
Edit: I just read what other posters have wrote, and I agree. Come on Bungie, great part of your fans are also MS loyals who preffer to wait on some products until MS releases a better version (ie ipod<Zune). This song should be on the Marketplace first so we all (zune user and any other people) could grab it.

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  • 12.15.2006 10:27 AM PDT
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Haha wow some of you guys are so tight with your money that it squeaks.... Come on guys, it's a freaking dollar!

Microsoft & Bungie are first and foremost working businesses, that run on money... and not rainbows and pixie dust like so many of you seem to think.

Again, the collective business awareness of the forums astounds me.

  • 12.15.2006 10:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Posted by: pmaster_2001
Haha wow some of you guys are so tight with your money that it squeaks.... Come on guys, it's a freaking dollar!


Yes, I'm gonna use a credit card I don't have to buy one song for a dollar.

Yes I'm being Sarcastic.

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  • 12.15.2006 11:00 AM PDT

Rawr!

I really don't understand why Bungie would go through Apple/iTunes for this. Last I checked, Bungie was owned by Microsoft, right? Did I miss a memo or something here, folks?

And I'm not going to allow Bungie to nickel and dime me to death for everything. I've paid for the 2 sets of maps already released, some of which I wish I could back and wait for to be free (Some of those maps were horribly made.), I've bought all the Halo CDs, I've put more money into Halo that I care to admit, and then Bungie is going to charge us a dollar for a song. I wouldn't be so upset if I could go buy a damn sountrack with all the music, but when you just release the one song, I don't want to pay a dollar for that, and I sure as hell don't want iTunes on my computer, thank you very much.

Bungie made plenty of money on Halo 2, will make more money that you've probably ever seen in your life on Halo 3, and they're charging us a dollar for a song of Marty's. :\ Wow.

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  • 12.15.2006 12:08 PM PDT
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LMAO!! omg i cant believe how many people are still complainng, and its even worse to believe how many people are still blaming bungie for this... like learn to read.
Dont got a iPod?, who cares! u can convert songs and practically do w/e u want, its unbelievable how lazy this world has gotten, where everyone gets everything free now a days thanx to the internet, if u want something, get a job and buy it, if u cant, then deal with it.
I dont get the point of complaing about something that could be worse, its not like their charging 5-10 bucks for the one song, its not like they took something that was already free and am now charging, and its not like the just ripped the music from the trailer... get with it people, Posting on a microsoft studio site about how u cant get .99 cents for a game related song.. will get u NOWHERE in life.

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  • 12.15.2006 12:11 PM PDT

i have a sansa, and no itunes, and I really don't feel like signing up for Itunes for one song. it sort of sucks. but whatever. I'll probably just get the H3 cd, so whatever.

and it has no background crap right, like cortana and the banshees? cause i would rip the sound from the trailer, but I can't isolate that without the banshees and cortana and whatnot.

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  • 12.15.2006 12:14 PM PDT

Mother pus bucket!

Posted by: RC Master
because Itunes ONLY works with ipods. And many people don't have Ipods. In addition, those with ipods, are restricted to ONLY using itunes.

I don't own an iPod and I use iTunes regularly at home and at work. As far as being restricted to only using iTunes, while it's no doubt frustrating, it's hard to be surprised by it.

Posted by: RC Master
Also, to download songs from itunes, you have to have an account. And to have an account, you have to submit card details. A lot of people still don't like the idea of transmitting there card details over the internet.

While neither of those are a problem for me (i have a visa card, which most places will accept) i do understand the choice or worry that some people have. And while it is a choice, it is one some people make out of security.

That's a valid point. I was somewhat reluctant to get on board with the whole e-commerce thing initially as well but I've been making occasional on-line purchases for years and have never had a problem. As has been mentioned in this forum many times, there are cards that offer protection against on-line and other types of fraud. I also check my statement regularaly just to make sure everything's in order.

I completely agree with you on the whole format/conversion issue.

Posted by: RC Master
Try to understand both sides of an dispute before you creating a big straw man argument.

I have no idea what that means. Assuming it's negative, I will reply by saying that understanding both sides of a dispute is not a prerequisite to expressing an opinion. Were that the case, your statement would have to apply equally to everyone who has complained about the decision to make the track available on iTunes. I'm sure there are completely valid reasons for the decision... reasons about which very few people seem to care.

Posted by: RC Master
And besides, I've had a rip of the audio from the trailer (in 5.1 no less) for ages. Which is more than adequate for me until the soundtrack comes out, which will undoubtably have a better price/song ratio, than buying a single track.

As, no doubt, do a large number of the people who have posted a complaint in this forum... but that didn't stop them from complaining, did it?

Posted by: RC Master
To sum up: great song. Nice for those who have ipods, but not for me.

... and for some who don't :)

  • 12.15.2006 12:22 PM PDT

Somebody above asked why we are complaining about paying for a piece of music, because the composer deserves it.

Here's what I have to say to that:

The Halo 3 trailer came out months ago. It included this music and sound effects, as well as voice acting, a severe amount of programming work, and the time and effort of almost everybody at Bungie. It was a free download.

So now, trim off everything but the music and it suddenly becomes a dollar? There was no extra work done here. The music was already made, it's just been sitting as a digital copy of whatever Marty uses to work his magic.


Charging for a download on a service that requires a credit card, uses low bitrate files, and has nasty DRM attached? F**k that.

I would pay a dollar for this track, but I want higher bitrate, no DRM, and I don't want to start handing out my financial information to "sign up" for something.

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Posted by: MagusO5
Somebody above asked why we are complaining about paying for a piece of music, because the composer deserves it.

Here's what I have to say to that:

The Halo 3 trailer came out months ago. It included this music and sound effects, as well as voice acting, a severe amount of programming work, and the time and effort of almost everybody at Bungie. It was a free download.

So now, trim off everything but the music and it suddenly becomes a dollar? There was no extra work done here. The music was already made, it's just been sitting as a digital copy of whatever Marty uses to work his magic.


So yeah, um....last time I checked, most trailers are usually released for free (See http://www.gametrailers.com ), and most game music is generally not.

Yes, some of the Halo CE & Halo 2 soundtrack were released here on Bnet for free, but that was Halo 2 and Halo CE. This is Halo 3. Deal with it!

Besides, Marty needs money to get his kids through college...

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  • 12.15.2006 1:28 PM PDT
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Would anybody help me? I am new to this thing I had joined. Please someone help me.

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Shouldn't it be on zune marketplace since Bungie is With Microsoft? I mean Microsoft and Apple are like mortal enemies.

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What about Zune support? Will it be availabe anytime soon on Zune marketplace or the URGE music store? I really disliking using iTunes.

Gil

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Well I thought it would be on Zune first. Every time I get on itunes it automaticaly converts my zune files to i tunes files. I'm willing to pay the $0.99 but I need an Apple account. Can't I just give them a credit card #?

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Zune +1. Maybe they will throw us a bone on this one.

  • 12.15.2006 5:06 PM PDT