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Do you want some butter with that? ^^

lol

  • 12.29.2006 11:20 PM PDT
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LMAO! Thanks for the offer, but that won't be necessary. This show won't last long. ;)

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wow. im not sure why i took the time to read this thread in its entirety...but..wow.

so who here forgot that halo is...A GAME...go ahead. raise your hands!

im guessing that many of the posts here are written by those who are very young and dont have enough life experience yet to understand what real life problems are and havent developed the remedial skills of conflict resolution in social situations...OR...sadly, deep and intense therapy may be needed. there really is only the choice between the two. one here even posted a reference to someone leaving a clan to further their halo career. LOL are you KIDDING ME? halo career. i am actually laffing out loud. wow. ok. good luck with that. im sure there are hundreds of listings on monsterjobs.com...i can see it now:

elite masterchief needed for Halo Clan. top salary and benefits to right candidate!

dont get me wrong. i love halo. im an admin in a clan. but i take it for what it is. a game. and as you sadly may hear in the weeks to come, there are much bigger problems with the game than the petty arguments between players and clans.

so umm...lets all go play nice....and return this thread to its original intent. just a suggestion.

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We (RED) Are allied with Red Phoenix, and i have had the pleasure of playing with many of them in casual scrimmages. We also believe that heavy swearing is at least a banning offense. its not the actual words, its the distraction it put towards other players. If i die twice because i am replying to somebody's insults, that is ruining my experience as a whole. Chatting was meant for team communication and occasionally communicating with the enemy, not for flaming. Unfortunately, we have had to ban many female players because of this policy. It seems that since they have a lack of respect in the community, they take out frustrations in random servers most of the time. i know it's a little off topic, but i think its a shame.

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I have to respectfully disagree with the logic above.

The second you take your hand off your mouse and hit 't', you should realize that you've made yourself extremely vulnerable. I constantly see people complaining about type-kills, and I can sympathize with them, but not if they were, say, typing their message on the top of the big hill in Gulch. Chatting is part of the game, yeah...but players should have a good idea of when and where they are safe to talk.

I don't condone or encourage type-killing...I acknowledge that it will always be done and that players shouldn't leave their guard down if they are that competetive

[Edited on 12/30/2006]

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Ah yes, generalizations like that do have a tendency to fall upon the female players. I was not accepted in a counterstrike clan (OutKasts) for the fact I was a girl a long time ago. Red Phoenix accepted me and I feel are an good clan. There are kids that play in the servers. You can never tell how old a patron may be. I'm 20, offensive words don't bother me. However, someone may be 10-15..some of the words can be very colorful at best. I feel it's pertinent to have rules. If you pay for the server, you make the rules.

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Posted by: Apollos
wow. im not sure why i took the time to read this thread in its entirety...but..wow.

so who here forgot that halo is...A GAME...go ahead. raise your hands!

im guessing that many of the posts here are written by those who are very young and dont have enough life experience yet to understand what real life problems are and havent developed the remedial skills of conflict resolution in social situations...OR...sadly, deep and intense therapy may be needed. there really is only the choice between the two. one here even posted a reference to someone leaving a clan to further their halo career. LOL are you KIDDING ME? halo career. i am actually laffing out loud. wow. ok. good luck with that. im sure there are hundreds of listings on monsterjobs.com...i can see it now:

elite masterchief needed for Halo Clan. top salary and benefits to right candidate!

dont get me wrong. i love halo. im an admin in a clan. but i take it for what it is. a game. and as you sadly may hear in the weeks to come, there are much bigger problems with the game than the petty arguments between players and clans.

so umm...lets all go play nice....and return this thread to its original intent. just a suggestion.


Firsty, go back to grammar school. It took me three runs through your post to figure out what you were saying.

Secondly, I used the word "career" for a lack of a better word. I can't really think of a better word for describing a person's personal persuit for Halo skill.

Thridly, yes, twenty years of age is fairly young, but to say I don't have life experience is ridiculous. Just because my method of conflict resolution differs so greatly than yours doesn't mean it is pointless to do so. Besides, most people would see "confilct resolution" as beating the crap out of the other guy. That's not my way of reasoning, so I must be on the right track at least.

And what was this thread's original intent, other than RP flaunting their exceptionally disturbing banlist? Oh wait, that was it?! Well crap, you guys better get back to it, then. Carry on, gentlemen!

  • 12.30.2006 9:37 PM PDT
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Okay, you are right. typing is a liability everyone knows it. every time i type i know its a chance i'll get killed etc. People shouldn't even respond to these guys, and theres no way to know if somebody is typing anyway. Its a risk we have to take because halo has no voip. i just think respect for the game should stop people from insulting others because obvoiusly people that do this are VERY brave in Real life ; ).
Also, in response to zhuuka, RED has Female Players too. Katetacular, who is one of my close friends, is a executive officer presiding over 1/6th of RED. She and other girls that I play videogames with in RED make them really fun to be around. However, there are some girls that crash servers and call everyone homo-blam!- and dont even bother playing, they just type. It bugs me cause they give a bad name to all the serious and respectable players that pwn everyone instead of type.

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Posted by: Oni Ryu
Firsty, go back to grammar school. It took me three runs through your post to figure out what you were saying.


You're typing at people on the Internet. Get used to it or learn to ignore it.

Thridly, yes, twenty years of age is fairly young, but to say I don't have life experience is ridiculous.

There is a reason people ask what you think about the "real world" once you've taken your first full-time job after you have finished your formal schooling. Anything prior to college--at least in the U.S.--barely shows a glimpse of this so-called real world. During this time, most people live sheltered lives and have a very rigid structure forced upon their lives. Literally they still see some life experiences, but in the grand scheme of things they mean almost nothing.

As a 20-year-old, you do lack many important life experiences that people only a couple years older have seen, dealt with, and reflected upon. I'm not trying to bruise your ego or make you angry; I'm just stating a fact. When I was 20, it was no different for me. At that age I lacked not only the formal training of older students, but the practical training of battle-scarred industry professionals. Looking back, I would not hesitate to say that I lacked life experience back then. I don't know much about you personally, but I'm guessing the same description would fit you pretty well. If so, then you would do well to start looking at things objectively instead of letting your emotions and preconceptions guide your views. You will not even begin to appreciate the vastness of what you do not know until you have allowed yourself to be humbled.

And what was this thread's original intent, other than RP flaunting their exceptionally disturbing banlist? Oh wait, that was it?! Well crap, you guys better get back to it, then. Carry on, gentlemen!

Actually, as I have mentioned numerous times when trying to bring the thread back on topic, I have a large pile of data and I am interested in performing some statistical analyses. However, I don't have a lot of time to devote to this, so I figured I would ask the community what kinds of things they would be interested in seeing. In the process, I have answered other questions that many people (including yourself) have asked. It is not by my will that this has turned into a discussion about whether it's right or wrong to have a banlist of that size. You and several others receive credit for that.

You have made it abundantly clear that you do not understand the issues involved here or in your PMs with me. Yet even after my explanations of how the banlist works and how things in RP work, you continue to carry on as though you know all the answers. You refuse to admit that you were wrong in many of your assumptions, and you refuse to accept the fact that you may be wrong about other things. Enjoy your bliss while you can.

Raptor


[Edited on 12/30/2006]

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Ryanman7 wrote:

We (RED) Are allied with Red Phoenix, and i have had the pleasure of playing with many of them in casual scrimmages. We also believe that heavy swearing is at least a banning offense. its not the actual words, its the distraction it put towards other players. If i die twice because i am replying to somebody's insults, that is ruining my experience as a whole. Chatting was meant for team communication and occasionally communicating with the enemy, not for flaming. Unfortunately, we have had to ban many female players because of this policy. It seems that since they have a lack of respect in the community, they take out frustrations in random servers most of the time. i know it's a little off topic, but i think its a shame.


First off, since I was in some of those scrims, I remember one very annoying match where some of your guys -blam!-ed during the scrim about shields, and then tried to justify how no-shields is skilled lol.
Why We Play with Shields:

There has never been a major national or international Halo tournament with no-shield gametype settings.
A lucky and/or random sniper shot to someone's toe in a standard no-shield game will give you a kill.
If you throw a random grenade in a standard no-shields game it's likely you will get a killtacular with no extra effort or help from anyone.
Spawn killing is incredibly easy, mainstream and necessary in no-shields games.
Hiding and/or camping is a much more applicable "strategy" in a no-shield game.
Most no-shields gamers do not know what a TSK is. Performing a TSK is considered one of the most quintessential expressions of skill in Halo.
Most no-shields gamers do not appreciate the skill involved in a no-scope, flick-shot headshot, rather then just a random body shot.
No-shields gamers usually can not get a killtacular with a single sniper or pistol clip in a shields game, whereas a shields gamer who can do this in a shields game could easily do it in a no-shields game.
No-shields gamers do not appreciate, or often times even know of, the backslap. In standard no-shields games, almost every melee is an instant kill, but in a shields game only a melee to the back will be a surefire kill, even when an overshield is charging.
That's another thing...no-shields gamers do not understand the overshield, or even the regular shield, when it comes to their reaction to plasma weapons, specifically plasma grenades. Some of you know what I'm talking about, some do not. Those who don't are either no-shields gamers, or new to the game (aka n00bs).
A no-shields gamer will usually do worse in a shields game, whereas a shields gamer will do better in a no-shields game.
No-shield gamers lack testicles.

But enough about that, just had to get that point across. As for the original banlist topic, yeah, the majority of those are mainly due to autobans, and each server and clan has their own rules to go by. As for the topic of text kills, heres a good pointer to go by. Play more, type less, get better.

Aaaaaaannnd my day is now complete.

[Edited on 12/31/2006]

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Posted by: punkbassist8916
[no-shields rant]


The no shields discussion was a little off-topic, but I agree. :)

Raptor

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Just had to get that out cause I know from talking to other RP's about the RED clan, you guys arent as close to them as you are to say, [RPC] or {CEO}. I remember a few scrims we had back when I was in RP vs the RED clan. We went to their server once, snipers no shields with infinite grenades, yet we didnt complain. A spawn rapers paradise tbh. Then we went to the RP server, where there were shields and no infinite nades. RED complained throughout the whole match how it was "unfair." The only one who didnt complain too much was Ryan, but I cant say the same for the rest of his clan.

*Edit* Oh and I talked to Hader, who regularly goes in the RED server. He says they frequently accuse him of botting. If you think Hader bots, then that just also proves my point as well.

[Edited on 12/31/2006]

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Whoa hold it. No shields and Shields are different. thats a fact. You guys are saying this stuff because you dont play it that often. we dont get killtaculars... uh yeah lol. its easy. and it happens so much we dont have to type !killtacular! in all caps when it happens. when i kill eight people in a row, yeah i'll type about that.
Hader doesn't bot, I played him, Vishal, (who was also very good,) and some other guys in that little scrim. that was unfortunate, cause some of our leaders were in there complaining etc. people accuse me of botting so i dont accuse people... ever. it sucks. none of your guys were, to my knowledge, they were just good at Halo.
I play shields occasionally too. not to seem like an arrogant ass, but i do very well in those games too. i went positive in that shields game i believe (check a screenie im not sure : ) and i like shields just as much as no shields. I consider them completely different games, I am in RED because of the friends i have made in there, not because of the leaders or their play style.

  • 01.01.2007 8:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Ryukage
What? Play a game? FOR FUN???
This concept of fun confuses and infuriates me!

Posted by: punkbassist8916
Ryanman7 wrote:

We (RED) Are allied with Red Phoenix, and i have had the pleasure of playing with many of them in casual scrimmages. We also believe that heavy swearing is at least a banning offense. its not the actual words, its the distraction it put towards other players. If i die twice because i am replying to somebody's insults, that is ruining my experience as a whole. Chatting was meant for team communication and occasionally communicating with the enemy, not for flaming. Unfortunately, we have had to ban many female players because of this policy. It seems that since they have a lack of respect in the community, they take out frustrations in random servers most of the time. i know it's a little off topic, but i think its a shame.


First off, since I was in some of those scrims, I remember one very annoying match where some of your guys -blam!-ed during the scrim about shields, and then tried to justify how no-shields is skilled lol.
Why We Play with Shields:

There has never been a major national or international Halo tournament with no-shield gametype settings.
A lucky and/or random sniper shot to someone's toe in a standard no-shield game will give you a kill.
If you throw a random grenade in a standard no-shields game it's likely you will get a killtacular with no extra effort or help from anyone.
Spawn killing is incredibly easy, mainstream and necessary in no-shields games.
Hiding and/or camping is a much more applicable "strategy" in a no-shield game.
Most no-shields gamers do not know what a TSK is. Performing a TSK is considered one of the most quintessential expressions of skill in Halo.
Most no-shields gamers do not appreciate the skill involved in a no-scope, flick-shot headshot, rather then just a random body shot.
No-shields gamers usually can not get a killtacular with a single sniper or pistol clip in a shields game, whereas a shields gamer who can do this in a shields game could easily do it in a no-shields game.
No-shields gamers do not appreciate, or often times even know of, the backslap. In standard no-shields games, almost every melee is an instant kill, but in a shields game only a melee to the back will be a surefire kill, even when an overshield is charging.
That's another thing...no-shields gamers do not understand the overshield, or even the regular shield, when it comes to their reaction to plasma weapons, specifically plasma grenades. Some of you know what I'm talking about, some do not. Those who don't are either no-shields gamers, or new to the game (aka n00bs).
A no-shields gamer will usually do worse in a shields game, whereas a shields gamer will do better in a no-shields game.
No-shield gamers lack testicles.


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The HMC map cycle contains many no shield game variants. Yet we still manage to have skilled players. Just because a game is shields or no shields, shouldn't matter. What should matter, is if you have fun, not worrying about the amount of skill used in a game. People like you bother me. Halo is meant to have fun. Hence the title of "game". Hell, I love to play all rocket games, because they always make me laugh hysterically. Playing Halo in general, with its terrible physics, can always make me laugh. Enjoy the games you play, instead of worrying how much effort is put into playing.

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Posted by: ConMan577
Enjoy the games you play, instead of worrying how much effort is put into playing.

Quoted for thruth, sig'd because it pwns everything. Let's spread that one around a bit.

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Posted by: Oni Ryu
LMAO! Thanks for the offer, but that won't be necessary. This show won't last long. ;)


Sorry to disappoint, but we're still around--and still growing, in fact. At last count, we had 67 members in Halo alone, 40 of whom are very active. About half of the ones classified as inactive have played in the past 3 weeks.

Raptor


P.S. Dapp is back on our forums, so you might want to update your screenshot.


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Hasn't been very long, maybe what, a month? But I am very amazed anyway. You've managed to recruit a lot of new players. New to your clan just as much as the game, actually. I love going into your servers and watching guys with RP tags try to shoot me from 500 yards away with the AR. Hilarity. But I digress.

We all know you're not to thank for that at all; If Platypus had stayed inactive, RP would be dead. If he hadn't shown up, you'd still be backing King and all of his lame decisions, just as you were when you decided to PM-war me last month. Platy still remains as the ONLY good part of RP, and completely pwns King as a leader, which he probably should've been from the start.

And ok, Dapp's back at your forums. That's what, one of five? Doesn't take back the fact that King was (and still is) a totalitarian prick. It took a lot of persuasion and time for King to change his mind, but when it all comes down to it, this whole "anyone who quits RP is an enemy of the clan" thing shouldn't have happened in the first place.

  • 01.17.2007 11:41 PM PDT

Get Marathon Here
Get Marathon 2 and Infinity Here

You could try PM'ing Frankie to see if he will give you data on the number of bans, or the stats on Halo player activity, on the Bungie.net servers. (yea I know their down right now)

And as far as this facinating discussion that's taking place is concerned, I did take the time to fully read it, and have come to the conclusion that Oni Ryu needs to get a life, and King needs to be dethrowned.

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Oni, I see nothing has changed--you are just as uninformed as ever. Perhaps you should try making sure more of your "facts" actually have some accuracy to them before you base an entire rant on them.

Posted by: Oni Ryu
Hasn't been very long, maybe what, a month?


A month is an awful long time to be eating popcorn. ;)

But I am very amazed anyway. You've managed to recruit a lot of new players. New to your clan just as much as the game, actually. I love going into your servers and watching guys with RP tags try to shoot me from 500 yards away with the AR. Hilarity. But I digress.

I think fewer than 10 of those players have been new in the past month. The rest have been around for a while. As for new to the game, sure--a few of them are, and since they've joined RP they've gotten better. But usually we recruit by invitation, which means they need to be in the server a lot and they usually need to be either high on the scoreboards or good at something in particular, like capturing the flag or rocket sniping.

We all know you're not to thank for that at all; If Platypus had stayed inactive, RP would be dead.

You're right; I can't take credit. There's a list of 80+ people who help make RP great, and about 70 of them play Halo.

As for Platypus, he officially is classified as inactive in Halo Division right now. He has been busy with work, and for the past several months when he has played computer games he has almost always played Silkroad Online. He hasn't posted on the forums in ages, hasn't chatted much in a while, and has only been in TS a couple times recently, as far as I know. Needless to say, we're looking forward to seeing him some more when his workload gets a little lighter or when he finally breaks his Silkroad addiction. ;)

If he hadn't shown up, you'd still be backing King and all of his lame decisions,

Seriously, I've hardly seen Plat since probably October. I'm beginning to think you must have some sort of learning impediment or memory problem which prevents you from acknowledging what I have told you numerous times in the past. I know it won't make much difference, but I'll say it again: King and I have disagreed on many things and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Both of us have admitted to our mistakes in the past and have done our best to correct them, but in most cases we neglect to consult with you first. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Perhaps if you had joined RP instead of going on a one-man crusade to tell everyone how horrible we are, we would have kept you more informed.

just as you were when you decided to PM-war me last month.

No, my friend, not a war. Not even close. You need to learn the art of arguing before you'll be able to do anything more than vomit on my shoes. To be honest, I was (and continue to be) rather disappointed with your performance. I hate to say it, but I've really gotten quite bored with you because you keep trying to build houses out of straw, and all you do is regurgitate the same drivel over and over again. That's not good for your esophagus, you know.

Platy still remains as the ONLY good part of RP, and completely pwns King as a leader, which he probably should've been from the start.

Platypus wasn't around 6 or 7 years ago when ESJGS was founded or 5 years ago when they changed their name to Red Phoenix. But I'll pass your sentiments along to the other RPs anyway.

And ok, Dapp's back at your forums. That's what, one of five? Doesn't take back the fact that King was (and still is) a totalitarian prick. It took a lot of persuasion and time for King to change his mind, but when it all comes down to it, this whole "anyone who quits RP is an enemy of the clan" thing shouldn't have happened in the first place.

I'm assuming the five you're talking about are all former RPs. To my knowledge, Matt is the only one still banned. I don't disagree with you that it "shouldn't have happened in the first place" but it did, and the people who were wronged seem to have gotten over it. Perhaps it's time for you to move on, too.

Raptor


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Posted by: RP_Raptor
[huge post removed for the sake of mine]


While your at it could you bump a couple threads for me...

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Posted by: Synthmilk
You could try PM'ing Frankie to see if he will give you data on the number of bans, or the stats on Halo player activity, on the Bungie.net servers. (yea I know their down right now)


Thanks for the suggestion. I don't know much about Bungie.net servers or Frankie. Is his username on the forums Frankie?

And as far as this facinating discussion that's taking place is concerned, I did take the time to fully read it,

Don't worry; you're not missing much! ;)

and have come to the conclusion that Oni Ryu needs to get a life, and King needs to be dethrowned.

I won't comment on the first one, but King isn't nearly as bad as Oni makes him out to be. Only on a few occasions in the past 2-3 years has King asserted himself upon our Halo Division; and whenever I have objected to something, King has been more than willing to defer to my judgement when I have been able to provide a compelling argument. Aside from that, he has allowed me to run the show, with help from several other dedicated Halo members.

The first time King joined in on the fun, we wound up finally getting a dedicated server. For the blink of an eye there may have been a little blood spilled over the confusion about whether some recruits were trying to join RPC or RP; but that was quickly resolved, and I'm happy to say our two clans continue to be about as close as any two clans could be.

The second time, he edited some inflammatory posts on our forums in an adolescent moment and deleted the thread very soon afterward, before most people could even read any of it. He also banned the people from our forums. People can cry about whether it was right or wrong; but things have certainly been more pleasant ever since, so I'd have to say the end goal of restoring the forums' original friendly atmosphere was achieved.

The third time, he banned some former members from our forums after they decided to leave RP. That is how it was always done in Elite Force (one of the other games we play) because the people who left us in EF almost always seemed to enjoy flaming us on the forums, so he didn't think of the repercussions of doing this to people who had formed very strong bonds with the rest of our Halo Division. Needless to say, most of the banned forum accounts were unbanned.

The fourth time (just a couple of days ago, actually) he suggested that we establish a permanent "recruiter" position to take over filtering applicants to our Halo Division, assign them to mentors/trainers, and handle everything else necessary to set them up with server addresses, e-mail lists, IM programs, TeamSpeak, etc. In the past we have had some less-than-reliable recruiters (including myself) who were unable to keep up with the website applications. Currently the website applications are filtered, responded to, and posted on our forums by King. Then when we (any of 5-10 senior members) see the players in the Halo server we follow up with them. Sometimes we don't get all the contact info we need in order to get them fully initiated, so having a single ultra-responsible point of contact should streamline things.

So, while King may have made a few bad calls in the past, he has done it with the intention of maintaining or restoring order. And in the end he has always done his best to make things right, just as any other person should. Anyone who claims he is power-hungry hasn't taken the time to know him personally, and certainly doesn't have the slightest inkling of his generosity.

Raptor


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This was longer, but I shortened it for viewing pleasure. ;)

Posted by: Synthmilk
And as far as this facinating discussion that's taking place is concerned, I did take the time to fully read it, and have come to the conclusion that Oni Ryu needs to get a life, and King needs to be dethrowned.

Yeah, I definitely need a life. My girlfriend and my band say the same thing too, I guess. </sarcasm> By the way, learn to spell before you try, please. It's "dethroned," and "fascinating."

Perhaps if you had joined RP instead of going on a one-man crusade to tell everyone how horrible we are, we would have kept you more informed.
It's not just one man. I'm just the only person that frequents these forums as well as KNFr's. And how could I side with a clan with a leader that banned me for suggesting you reduce the size of your ridiculous avatars (such a small thing, too), and change your contradictory diplomacy ethics? ...Hey, I guess you're right! I shouldn't be pointing those things out! Shame on me for having a voice.

But usually we recruit by invitation, which means they need to be in the server a lot and they usually need to be either high on the scoreboards or good at something in particular, like capturing the flag or rocket sniping.
You need some higher standards, I guess. I'm seeing pretty much all of your guys on the low when I enter there. Funny though, how they still find a reason to talk a lot of crap (which is a perfect way your clan contradicts their philosophy statement).

You need to learn the art of arguing before you'll be able to do anything more than vomit on my shoes.
Those words make me wish I hadn't deleted your PMs. They'd probably still be pretty funny to read.

Platypus wasn't around 6 or 7 years ago when ESJGS was founded or 5 years ago when they changed their name to Red Phoenix. But I'll pass your sentiments along to the other RPs anyway.
Was it as lame back then as it is now? Were you still treating everyone outside of your clan as inferior (another example of your clan contradicting your philosophy)? Was King still banning people left and right for pointing out his abundant mistakes?

And in the end he (King) has always done his best to correct his mistakes, just as any other person should.
Biggest lie I've ever heard, to be honest. Remember when SirSaw apologized through H2O about KNFr's harshness towards your clan? Remember the post King edited just to be a prick? That being said, can you recall a time when King has ever apologized for that incident? That spoiled rich kid doesn't feel the need to correct anything, because in his mind, he believes that he has done nothing wrong.

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  • 01.18.2007 11:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Oni Ryu
This was longer, but I shortened it for viewing pleasure. ;)


How thoughtful.

Posted by: Synthmilk
And as far as this facinating discussion that's taking place is concerned, I did take the time to fully read it, and have come to the conclusion that Oni Ryu needs to get a life, and King needs to be dethrowned.

Yeah, I definitely need a life. My girlfriend and my band say the same thing too, I guess.


At least you realize you have a problem. That's the second step toward recovery. ;)

By the way, learn to spell before you try, please. It's "dethroned," and "fascinating."

Take some of your own advice--I've seen you misspell plenty of words here and in your PMs. Shall the rest of us start pointing out your mistakes, too?

It's not just one man. I'm just the only person that frequents these forums as well as KNFr's. And how could I side with a clan with a leader that banned me for suggesting you reduce the size of your ridiculous avatars (such a small thing, too), and change your contradictory diplomacy ethics? ...Hey, I guess you're right! I shouldn't be pointing those things out! Shame on me for having a voice.

I was referring to the period of time before you demonstrated your immaturity on our forums, of course. I believe your pottymouthage was the last straw. Up until then you were just annoying, regurgitating everything else one or two of your buddies said.

You need some higher standards, I guess. I'm seeing pretty much all of your guys on the low when I enter there. Funny though, how they still find a reason to talk a lot of crap (which is a perfect way your clan contradicts their philosophy statement).

No, our standards are high enough to keep most people like you out. We consider a lot of other attributes in addition to skill in a video game. If you do see RPs trash-talking, please PM me the links and I'll look into it. Just don't expect me to show any sympathy toward you or anyone else if someone was egging them on.

You need to learn the art of arguing before you'll be able to do anything more than vomit on my shoes.
Those words make me wish I hadn't deleted your PMs. They'd probably still be pretty funny to read.


Oh, how I wish you hadn't deleted the PMs so you could share them with the rest of the world! The only reason you thought they were funny was probably because you didn't comprehend what I was saying. By the way, this still isn't arguing you're doing. Read a book on it (again, this is something I have suggested many times before), and maybe you'll understand what I mean when I say you don't know how to argue.

Biggest lie I've ever heard, to be honest. Remember when SirSaw apologized through H2O about KNFr's harshness towards your clan? Remember the post King edited just to be a prick? That being said, can you recall a time when King has ever apologized for that incident? That spoiled rich kid doesn't feel the need to correct anything, because in his mind, he believes that he has done nothing wrong.

1. No, I don't, because the post to which you are referring wasn't an apology. The word "sorry" was in the post, but it was used in a malicious context, not an apologetic one.

2. I remember hearing of this post you speak of, but I never saw it because he deleted it immediately afterward. Given the nature of the other posts I saw from your friends, I think it is for the best that we have more or less cut off communication and decided to go our separate ways.

3. I apologized to the other party involved (read: "not you") for a couple of things at the time, which should have been good enough. Why you seem to be so concerned about something everyone else has left in the past, I neither know nor care.

4. Once again you have proven your ignorance. He is neither spoiled nor a kid. I don't know enough of your background to know whether you would consider him rich; but then again, even I would probably be considered rich compared to a lot of people your age.

Raptor


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Usually I dont' intervere in other people's problems even though a bunch of you -blam!-tards felt like voicing your opinions between me and nessy...However, that is not the topic here.

This thread should have never been bumped and whoever it was, I will stab you.

Raptor as...Reserved...as you are managing to remain, you are starting to sound like an ass. Dusk, yes you have a problem with whoever but you are basically making an arguement at a brick wall because if you haven't noticed raptor is doing what nessy did, playing off your anger, you are just feeding him. If king is to much a -blam!- to hear you out than -blam!- him. He doesn't deserver your time. Let this die and -blam!- get over your pride, I have a LOT of pride, it is one of the only things I hold on to and I hate being proven wrong or outdone. However, I could put my own personal strife aside so stop making yourselves out to be fools, just let it go...

As simple as it may sound, and as difficult as it may be you can do it. Just let go.

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I will, Demi. I will let it go. No use arguing to someone like that.

But I will still frequently slaughter their trash-taking players in their server, and I will still wear my sig as a reminder of what their clan's really about, as well as their leader's attitude towards, well, pretty much everything.

By the way, Raptor. I'm still waiting for that 1vs1 from Karma. Has he decided to be a man yet and back up all the crap he spewed out? 'Cause when people call me a noob, I'd at least expect them to prove it.

  • 01.19.2007 7:49 AM PDT