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Subject: gg: a personal rant on abuse of power
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As requested by raptor, I've changed a reply of mine into a new thread, so that he can sort out his issue without me running off on a tangeant...

here i go... my self-indulgent little thread.

The first major incident was a permanent ban when I was having one of the best games of my life. I hadn't said a word, nobody was accusing me of botting, but without any warning..."the operator has banned you from this server." I was upset but shrugged it off and waited a few weeks. When the ban had still not been lifted, I went over to their forums and made a thread. Nobody owned up to banning me, and nobody could provide a reason why I was banned. After explaining I was not at fault over and over again, the ban was finally lifted.

Fast Forward to about a month ago. Again, I find myself playing extremely well, and suddenly am kicked without warning. I wait until another spot opens up again, get back in there, and am kicked again (3 seconds after joining) with no explanation. So I change my name, get back in there, and finish my game no problem.

I make another post on their forum, detailing what happened. Ripper steps up to the plate and says "you were botting, I was watching you..100% I know you were cheating STFU and enjoy your stay on the permanent ban list." The thread is then locked before I can reply.

I make another thread, explaining that I wasn't banned, I was kicked. I tell them I'd like them to watch me play again and tell me I'm cheating. I ask Ripper why he would only kick someone he thought was botting, as they'd be able to come right back into the server. He replies, at the height of maturity, with "I can ban you in a second. Be grateful I haven't. If you reply again I will ban you. I will take your lack of acknowledgment as understanding of this."

I held my tongue.

2 Days later, that second thread is deleted, leaving only the first thread which was locked after Ripper "owned" me for botting.

Bottom line: there are always people who abuse their power. I can't say whether Raptor or King are of this persuasion because I have no experience with them, but based on what happened between me and Ripper, I've learned if you want to play on someones server, you have to play by their "rules" (and I use that word very loosely). No amount of reasoning will get you anywhere with the type of people I've dealt with.

  • 12.28.2006 10:12 AM PDT
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Cool, thanks! Much appreciated.

Raptor

  • 12.28.2006 10:14 AM PDT
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=[ I feel sorry for ya, dude. I have been accused of aimbotting as well many times. Aimbotters can be spotted for several things.

*They cannot lock onto a ducking players' head
*They always do a 180 spin whenever they are locked on to a player in a vehicle.
*They will do a quick jerking motion when looking away and look straight back at the players head, and anticipate their moves, and follow their target behind walls and hills.

Tell the next person to accuse you of aimbotting that, and see what they say.

  • 12.28.2006 10:20 AM PDT
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Sounds pretty familiar, only it all happened on a forum. Verbally pwnt the leader of RP with logic and common sense, and protested against his totalitarian ethics, his contradictions of his clan philosophy, and their avatar sizes (500x500, roflmao) and he banned me. Then he deleted the threads, pretty much made it look like I was never there, and never told anyone I was banned. I'd imagine a random server ban is next, as it has happened to some of my friends already.

Clan [SR] (the guys that only play BG CTF heavily modded to their favor) has an enemies of [SR] section of their forums, and me and a bunch of guys from KNFr ripped on them hardcore there. They culdn't stand the shame, so they banned us all and deleted the thread we made.

Amazing how a lot of people are on power trips these days.

  • 12.28.2006 10:31 AM PDT
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heck...i consider it an honor if im accused of botting. but i guess im not good enuff to get banned for it. lol i guess the way i feel is...there are so many servers out there u should be able to find a dozen that fit the atmosphere of gameplay that u want. shouldnt be an issue. i havent really had a problem. but then...i dont chat a lot in game. so banning has been a minimal issue.

  • 12.28.2006 10:05 PM PDT
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i hate ppl who accuse u of botting and if they flame u and u flame back they ban, and if u pwn them really bad they ban.

  • 12.28.2006 10:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apollos
heck...i consider it an honor if im accused of botting. but i guess im not good enuff to get banned for it.

Ditto here. Most people that accuse people of hacking without looking for proof are noobs, though.

I don't accuse people of hacking. Instead I leave, come back under a pub name, and devcam/record them. If they're snapping, I tell them they've been discovered, recorded, and show the video the admins of the server.

  • 12.28.2006 11:13 PM PDT
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I think the HMC clan thinks I bot. Everytime I would kill them with a 1sk, or a 3sk, they do that very annoying "...." on me, which is universal for them thinking to themselves, "what the -blam!-? he killed me like that....must be botting."

http://media.putfile.com/Rhetoric-Hearts-Halo-PC

Now, I dont know if thats what they are thinking, but alot of times when I jump in the MAW clan server and some HMC guys are there, that always happens :/

  • 12.28.2006 11:42 PM PDT
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If you have a problem with one of my members, please talk to me. No one in HMdz should be accusing other people of aimbotting. I only generally see what goes down in our server, so if someone's misbehaving in another server, please bring this to our attention. Thanks!

Regarding the server admin abuse, you've just got to find the right server to hang out in. It can take awhile, but finding that one server that you can go back to time and time again is an invaluable thing. For me, that used to be the old HBO server. It had great gametypes, the people were regulars, and the admins rocked. I'd recommend the MAW, TUI, and HMC servers, but then again, I'm biased. :)

  • 12.29.2006 12:24 AM PDT
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those are my 3 favorite servers

  • 12.29.2006 12:38 AM PDT
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Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against HMC, they are cool in my book. They havent formally accused me, but everytime I would get a 1 shot kill with sniper noscoped, or a clean 3sk pistol, they would do that "Hmmm...." thing, which in my experience with playing against other people, when someone does that in game, they are generally thinking, "i think he mihgt be aimbotting"

  • 12.29.2006 12:39 AM PDT
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i do -.- or i press space, ut thats every time i get killed, not when i accuse of aim botting, when i think some 1 is aim bottin, i leave the game, open ight jacker rejoin with different profile, and watch.

[Edited on 12/29/2006]

  • 12.29.2006 12:45 AM PDT

that happens to me alot in Halo CE. mostly its just small servers with 4 people and the server host gets frustrated that I keep killing him and bans me.

  • 12.29.2006 12:50 AM PDT
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Pff, in Halo CE, if you do good, everyones like, "Wow you so aimbot" and then sight jack you, and watch as you proceed to -blam!- everyone by skill.

  • 12.29.2006 1:15 AM PDT
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If you're accused of cheating, that's a good thing. It means that you're so good that people think you're cheating. God knows how many times I've been accused of cheating.

  • 12.29.2006 5:03 AM PDT
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Sorry to hear that man. I hate people who do that. That lowlife excuse for a human, Ripper should burn in hell painfully, and horribly, and slowly, and satisfyingly...excellent... [/my Montgomery Burns mood]

  • 12.29.2006 9:03 AM PDT
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There was this one guy, called Skywalker, who kept calling me a hacker. I told him to prove it and he asked "how?" So, I told him that if he doesn't even recognize the signs of a cheater, then he's a pretty poor excuse for a server cop.

And while we're ranting there's something else I want to scream about. Stupid people online. There was this little goon named dillon on my team the other night, and he asked for a gunner, so I hoped in, first thing he did was drive straight over a live nade. So a little later on, I was driving a hog and he jumps in the passenger seat. I told him to get in the gunner and he told me to go pick him up. I was like "WTF?" So this red guy walks by and starts shooting at us, and this retard didn't even realize it, he dies, and I kill the red guy and hop back in the hog. Well, this idiot comes right back and hops in the passenger seat AGAIN! So I told him to "GET IN THE EFFIN GUNNER!" he jumps out and nades me and runs away like the little prick he is.

  • 12.29.2006 9:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And while we're ranting there's something else I want to scream about. Stupid people online. There was this little goon named dillon on my team the other night, and he asked for a gunner, so I hoped in, first thing he did was drive straight over a live nade. So a little later on, I was driving a hog and he jumps in the passenger seat. I told him to get in the gunner and he told me to go pick him up. I was like "WTF?" So this red guy walks by and starts shooting at us, and this retard didn't even realize it, he dies, and I kill the red guy and hop back in the hog. Well, this idiot comes right back and hops in the passenger seat AGAIN! So I told him to "GET IN THE EFFIN GUNNER!" he jumps out and nades me and runs away like the little prick he is.


Haha, that's something I'd expect from a turtle...o.o

But don't get me wrong, I LOVE turtles. I have three river rednecked turtles as pets. Sorry for going off topic, just wanted to point that out. xD

[Edited on 12/29/2006]

  • 12.29.2006 9:33 AM PDT
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wowow. I was not expecting this many replies. Cool.

Yeah, I understand being accused of cheating should be taken as a compliment. No problems there. It's when I'm falsely "prosecuted", ridiculed, and, after proving my innocence, completely ignored/forced to shut up that pisses me off. If they would simply say "oh, sorry man. my bad. i'll be more careful in the future" that would make me happy and I wouldn't feel the need to make rants like this. Instead they continue to say things like "you better watch how you act around us...we'll be watching you." Just admit you made a mistake...that's all I ask.

Furthermore, it's one thing to be banned because someone thought you were cheating. It's another thing to be banned because the admin can't take the pounding you're dishing out, and then uses the excuse of "you were botting" to cover up. The latter is much worse, imo.

Regarding the "..." comments, I wouldn't automatically assume they think you're botting if they said this. Sure, it's possible, but until they go right out and say it, I wouldn't worry. Next time they reply with "...", maybe say something like "what are you trying to say?" Just a thought.

EDIT: I clearly need to find more good servers...I haven't spent enough time doing this. But that will have to wait until my hand heals...

[Edited on 12/29/2006]

  • 12.29.2006 9:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: okay player
EDIT: I clearly need to find more good servers...I haven't spent enough time doing this. But that will have to wait until my hand heals...


What happened? I better not hear you broke it by doing the...naughty naughty!!! xD

J/k, hope it feels better. I remember when I pulled my right arm muscles. Ouch!

  • 12.29.2006 10:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: punkbassist8916
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against HMC, they are cool in my book. They havent formally accused me, but everytime I would get a 1 shot kill with sniper noscoped, or a clean 3sk pistol, they would do that "Hmmm...." thing, which in my experience with playing against other people, when someone does that in game, they are generally thinking, "i think he mihgt be aimbotting"


oh man, if it's me saying that, my bad. and i saw in your video, you killed jackal. that makes you deserve a gold star. also, tell whoever's saying that you're botting to go away, cause obaten says you're cool.

  • 12.29.2006 11:27 AM PDT
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Is Jackal your guys best or something?

[quote="okay player"] I clearly need to find more good servers...I haven't spent enough time doing this.[/quote]

Theres always the KNFr servers. They have 3 servers and they are usually filled with skilled players from many different clans.

[quote="Master Kim"]If you're accused of cheating, that's a good thing. It means that you're so good that people think you're cheating. God knows how many times I've been accused of cheating. [/quote]

Problem is that people start banning players that are good till theres no good servers to go into. noscope_ // G l a :D // <<RoK>> Reaper is a hell of a player and he is banned from many good servers cause people think he aimbots. Same with KNFr-H2O, and many good players. Thats when it gets too much.

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  • 12.29.2006 12:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

No offense to RP Clan because I used to have a lot of fun on their servers awhile back, but they have a reputation for kicking good players.

It's just the way it is...

This week alone I was perma banned from a very well known server for botting and kicked from another. Both issues were resolved by dealing with higher ups in these clans who know me. It's usually those low on the totem pole that make these bad decisions.

It happens all the time...which is why Bungie needs to get their servers back up, so we don't have to deal with this nonsense. Most of these guys who accuse people of botting have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

My advice is simply not to play with the RP clan anymore if they don't want you around. If you are legit, and they ban you, they are fools, thus is the way of the world. And around and around we go.

  • 12.29.2006 12:58 PM PDT
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[XK] are also famous for that.

  • 12.29.2006 1:45 PM PDT
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People, please note that this has nothing to do with RP. We don't have anyone named Ripper in the clan. Someone abusing RCON privileges like this would likely have them taken away. Sorry if I de-rail the thread with this reply.

Anyway, sounds like you had a rough time. This admin forced you to shut up whenever you still had a lot to say in your own defense. It may have been for the best; who wants to play in a server with admins that act like that?

  • 12.29.2006 3:28 PM PDT

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