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Subject: Halo PC Is Being Ruined

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Lately, I've had a bit of a jones for playing Halo PC online. And I've been noticing that it's being ruined. The game hasn't changed, it's the people playing it. It's nearly impossible to get a good game nowadays. So, let me give you an example of how things roll for me.

Okay, I want to play a small game, no more than six people on Blood Gulch, regular weapons.

10 Servers

But, for some reason, almost half of them don't work. They can't be connected to.

6 Servers

But, on average, two of those have mods or cheats of some sort.

4 Servers

Rule out about two with heavy weapons or snipers.

2 Servers

So, it's down to about two servers of the original ten that were possible. Now, some of this is due to my preference. I want standard weapons. Pistols, mainly. And then, everywhere throughout the game, you've got those stray users who have aimbots, mods, they teamkill, they're racist, or just impossible to play with.

One user I was doing 1v1 with was a self-righteous dick, yet he had no skill. I kill him, and he says something like, "wow it took u long enuff, u rely suck!". He manages to get one single kill on me, using a rocket launcher or something, while I'm using a pistol. "wow, i killd u taht time, u shuld b ashamd of urself!". And I run into people like this all the time.

When I sign on (now, at least), I want something very simple. A good, strong server, with no more than six players, standard weapons and pleasant people. Tell me, why is this so difficult to find?

  • 12.28.2006 10:46 PM PDT
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its called people are as holes

  • 12.28.2006 10:48 PM PDT

I wonder if the Wolf thinks the Moon listens when he howls at it.

Its a condition of video games that i like to call "Over Hype". Do to the extreme success of halo and its succession of halo2 all of a sudden- EVERYONE wants to get it. And since the first one was released in 2001 therefore being out for about 5 years now, it falls into the class of "oldschool" which goes with an over used term- "back in the day". So , since the average Joe doesn't have 160$+ to run down to GameStop and buy and xbox with a copy of halo(2) , but they most often do have a pc-usually a peice of cow dung, they buy halo pc and play online(completely ignoring the campaign). And after they've been playing for about 2 months they played against so many pub noobs they think they're all bad and they'll usually tell anyone they've been playing the game since it came out. These are the people that hang around in public servers all day long, never think about trying to kill somebody with a pistol because they instantaneously head for the rocket launcher spawn once they enter the game and always complain when they get killed with a heavy using shrewed comments like-"Lol wut a heavy noob" , " pfft nade noob......" , " LOL it took you 5 magazines to kill me!" , "Nice aimbot" , etc. And these, half of the time, are the poeple that have names such as- "Master Cheif" , "Spartan 117" , "Caboose" , "Sarge". On an average day they will end up with an overall kill death ratio of 1 kill to 8 deaths. They aren't fun to play with and they constantly complain.

  • 12.28.2006 11:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

Dude, play on Clan servers, they have much nicer people.

  • 12.28.2006 11:24 PM PDT

I wonder if the Wolf thinks the Moon listens when he howls at it.

Posted by: stare3
Dude, play on Clan servers, they have much nicer people.
Even better yet play on christian servers.

  • 12.28.2006 11:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apoc the stunter
Posted by: stare3
Dude, play on Clan servers, they have much nicer people.
Even better yet play on christian servers.


Good God, no. Nothing but a bunch of Ned Flanders. You say "Crap" and they kick you out.

Crap isn't a swear word!

  • 12.28.2006 11:30 PM PDT
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hah. i have just halo demo, but i run into people like that all the time. I usually have a server in blood gulch (only available map for demo) were only four other people can join. Sure i get the banshee freaks and the rocket morons. including the language abusers. but the server name usually attracts good players, who friken kick my ass as well as evryone elses.

  • 12.28.2006 11:34 PM PDT
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Dude Two words..... MAW SERVER

8.2.0.184

  • 12.29.2006 12:02 AM PDT

Posted by: Demigod333
Dude Two words..... MAW SERVER

8.2.0.184


Here Here!
and the Red Phoenix clan server is also good. But it isn't as moderated as well the Maw sever.

  • 12.29.2006 12:11 AM PDT

Remember "The Maw"

Posted by: Demigod333
Dude Two words..... MAW SERVER

8.2.0.184

yes, i love the MAW severs. There, people don't ban me for getting 2 head shot kills in a row and call me a "botter"

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Posted by: Demigod333
Dude Two words..... MAW SERVER

8.2.0.184

yes, i love the MAW severs. There, people don't ban me for getting 2 head shot kills in a row and call me a "botter"


i play maw, and tui a lot, i like going to the tuesday gatherings.

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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

And Cyberslam is a good one if anyone here is Aussie like me.

  • 12.29.2006 2:26 AM PDT
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havent seen that server

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Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

I'm not surprised, it's hard to find if you don't look carefully.

  • 12.29.2006 2:53 AM PDT
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b1tch, b1tch, b1tch thats all people do in here now. Start your own freakin server idiot!

[Edited on 12/29/2006]

  • 12.29.2006 4:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: KILLINU
b1tch, b1tch, b1tch thats all people do in here now. Start your own freakin server idiot!

I don't see you helping here. If he's an idiot, then God knows the level of stupidity you've reached. Starting your own server is, might I say, the first thing he and probably what I would have thought of. But no, some of us actually want to lead our shots to gain kills so we win against others fair and square without a no-latency advantage.

  • 12.29.2006 4:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: KILLINU
b1tch, b1tch, b1tch thats all people do in here now. Start your own freakin server idiot!

I don't see you helping here. If he's an idiot, then God knows the level of stupidity you've reached. Starting your own server is, might I say, the first thing he and probably what I would have thought of. But no, some of us actually want to lead our shots to gain kills so we win against others fair and square without a no-latency advantage.


Rofl-copters-If he's an idiot, then God knows the level of stupidity you've reached.

  • 12.29.2006 6:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: Apoc the stunter
Its a condition of video games that i like to call "Over Hype". Do to the extreme success of halo and its succession of halo2 all of a sudden- EVERYONE wants to get it. And since the first one was released in 2001 therefore being out for about 5 years now, it falls into the class of "oldschool" which goes with an over used term- "back in the day". So , since the average Joe doesn't have 160$+ to run down to GameStop and buy and xbox with a copy of halo(2) , but they most often do have a pc-usually a peice of cow dung, they buy halo pc and play online(completely ignoring the campaign). And after they've been playing for about 2 months they played against so many pub noobs they think they're all bad and they'll usually tell anyone they've been playing the game since it came out. These are the people that hang around in public servers all day long, never think about trying to kill somebody with a pistol because they instantaneously head for the rocket launcher spawn once they enter the game and always complain when they get killed with a heavy using shrewed comments like-"Lol wut a heavy noob" , " pfft nade noob......" , " LOL it took you 5 magazines to kill me!" , "Nice aimbot" , etc. And these, half of the time, are the poeple that have names such as- "Master Cheif" , "Spartan 117" , "Caboose" , "Sarge". On an average day they will end up with an overall kill death ratio of 1 kill to 8 deaths. They aren't fun to play with and they constantly complain.



Yup, and that's also why you never come across these problems on Xbox Live.

It's all because Halo PC is overrun by little kids and their thoughts of "pwning" with a rocket is the kill of the year.
Seriously, the number of "ALL VEHICLES" and "HEAVY WEAPONS ONLY" servers are totally rediculous. But I guess the dedicated server admins are just going with what the crowd wants...and the crowd (mostly little kids) wants the most unskilled type of game you can get...all vehicles and all heavys. And everytime you kill them, they say you're aimbotting or just simply cuss you. I just ignore them, but it's annoying when they chat non-stop and send your team's talk away....

Personally, I just can't wait till I get my 360 and hdtv, then I don't have to play Halo PC with annoying little kids and they're rockets anymore whenever I'm bored at home.

Oh, and for those of you getting H2V, oh god that's gonna be one hell of a nightmare after the little kids take over again.

  • 12.29.2006 6:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: stare3
Dude, play on Clan servers, they have much nicer people.
Even better yet play on christian servers.


Good God, no. Nothing but a bunch of Ned Flanders. You say "Crap" and they kick you out.

Crap isn't a swear word!


There is a particular reason for that. Let one word slip over and over, then is a gap in the rules, and gaps tend to widen. So, instead of spending the effort to complain about how strict the server is, just play the game, enjoy it, and dont bother to write foul language filled retorts, or long complaints about how bull whatever just happened to you is. I think about it now, and I rarely speak through text ingame. Only to compliment, or give out my worst insult, actually most harsh response, "Lol, don't be such a sore loser." My fav for the numerous accusations of aimbotting, tele hacking, wireframe hacking. (Which I firmly state that I don't do any of that, never used any kind of software to cheat in any video game ever...stupid halo 2 modders) That is why clan servers are good. Someone is generally always there to enforce the server rules, and after a time, people catch on, and more time playing than trying to tell the other people how bad they are in large caps and lots of swear words.

  • 12.29.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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Its a condition of video games that i like to call "Over Hype". Do to the extreme success of halo and its succession of halo2 all of a sudden- EVERYONE wants to get it. And since the first one was released in 2001 therefore being out for about 5 years now, it falls into the class of "oldschool" which goes with an over used term- "back in the day". So , since the average Joe doesn't have 160$+ to run down to GameStop and buy and xbox with a copy of halo(2) , but they most often do have a pc-usually a peice of cow dung, they buy halo pc and play online(completely ignoring the campaign). And after they've been playing for about 2 months they played against so many pub noobs they think they're all bad and they'll usually tell anyone they've been playing the game since it came out. These are the people that hang around in public servers all day long, never think about trying to kill somebody with a pistol because they instantaneously head for the rocket launcher spawn once they enter the game and always complain when they get killed with a heavy using shrewed comments like-"Lol wut a heavy noob" , " pfft nade noob......" , " LOL it took you 5 magazines to kill me!" , "Nice aimbot" , etc. And these, half of the time, are the poeple that have names such as- "Master Cheif" , "Spartan 117" , "Caboose" , "Sarge". On an average day they will end up with an overall kill death ratio of 1 kill to 8 deaths. They aren't fun to play with and they constantly complain.



Yup, and that's also why you never come across these problems on Xbox Live.

I would have to disagree with that. I just recently created a new 1-month account and on my normal acct. I am a 27. There are lots of little kids on Live (tons more on the new acct.) like the ones that kill you with a sword once in the entire game and yell OWNT!!! in a high-pitched, sqeaky voice. Now there may be more on PC or more on Live but I don't know, what I do know is that there are lots of idiots on Live and most of them suck because they are too full of themselves to think in a video game (yea I know its scary but H2 requires it to be good), nonetheless actually play the game instead of spouting out profanities.

  • 12.29.2006 7:21 AM PDT
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I got Halo and Halo 2 in the Halo experience pack the the Xbox, i played trough both campaigns numerous times on the Xbox, and when i got the PC version, the first thing i did was play trough the Campaign again. I still play Campaign often.
When i go to the multiplayer part i find people who don't care about others.
People on my own team attack me for weapons, grenades, or just for fun. I need to kill them to prevent them from killing me. I also don't like modded servers or servers with rockets/snipers only, and i'd rather use an AR than a pistol in combat.
And Banshees are a no for me, the lag that occurs when i'm near an enemy vehicle (which slows my pitch and yaw a lot) prevents me from using the Banshee for air to air attacks.
I can't even use a warthog without ticking a friend and killing him by accident.

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Posted by: TIA_Gangsta
Yup, and that's also why you never come across these problems on Xbox Live.

That may be true, but the Xbox Live community is just as bad. Asinine jackasses screaming racial slurs and claiming they can beat you up in real life after viciously winning a game of Team Slayer makes me want to turn off my 360 and go back to playing more Halo PC.

Posted by: TIA_Gangsta
Personally, I just can't wait till I get my 360 and hdtv, then I don't have to play Halo PC with annoying little kids and they're rockets anymore whenever I'm bored at home.

Oh, and for those of you getting H2V, oh god that's gonna be one hell of a nightmare after the little kids take over again.

Trust me, you'll find just as many annoying kids. Even more so. And for Halo 2 Vista, it's going to cost a huge amount of money to get a decent PC with Windows Vista and a copy of Halo 2, something people with jobs, not little kids, would be able to buy and play Halo 2 Vista.

Don't get me wrong, you'll still find a huge amount of immature little kiddies in public servers that no amount of intelligent reasoning can deal with. It's just part of online gaming. I'm not going to stand by and let them trash-talk and scream about how they did my mother, but I'm going to accept the fact that there are lots of retarded people on Halo PC. It's just that it's even more so on Xbox Live.

  • 12.29.2006 8:01 AM PDT
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Come to the {LP} Clan Server! =D

And yeah, in the COG and SOC servers, it gets really annoying, sure it has friendly people, but you can't even say "omg". It's a rated M game FFS. It's bad enough to put three .50 cal explosive rounds in your enemy's head and watch the blood splatter all over the dirt, but you can't say something simple like "omg" or "crap". Pathetic, those COG and SOC members need to see the pub light.

  • 12.29.2006 8:11 AM PDT
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the simple solution to behavior issues is...ignore the chat. and the simple solution for getting banned for saying "crap" is...dont chat! lol im not sure what the fascination for long drawn out discussion while IN GAME is...but i dont play to chat. i play to play. so if im on a server thats not mine, i dont pay much attention to the chat. i play on a select few servers consistently and dont see alot of problems and rarely see clear cut cheaters. and most cheaters i see are so bad at the game their bots really dont help them much. lol

what i've seen thats REALLY ruining the game is this: there is a hack program on the loose that allows the operator to hack rcon thereby completely hijacking the server. if you moderate your servers to keep good clean gameplay, you may be at risk. there are two clans that i know of that are under consistent regular attacks and having their servers hijacked. including modded maps being inserted into the mapcycle, server shutdown, clan members banned etc. i will deal with all the little junior hi antics and aimbots and all the rest any day of the week rather than have to deal with this.

  • 12.29.2006 8:17 AM PDT
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I know what you mean. I play with the CD crack (because I can't leave that cd in my laptop all the time, gets annoying when I have to switch cds) and I guess it takes the update out and you only get like 20 servers instead of like 700. This allows me to open a room and people actually join. I usually call the room !!!BUSH SUCKS!!! haha, gets people's attention. I switched back to not playing with the no cd crack and I got nothing but people with aimbots playing and deathless cheats, so I switched back.

I get people that piss me off and occasionally and I kick them out and they hack back in and shut my game down or I get people that ONLY use rockets, fuel rods, run people over with ghosts and never bother to actually capture the flag (usual game type for my server). I set the game type to slayer and those noob morons get embarassed from me whooping their butts and they leave, haha.

Yeah, some nights it is not even enjoyable to play. Does anybody know how to keep people from hacking into your game when you kick them?

  • 12.29.2006 8:44 AM PDT

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