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Here it is! Something to show you how to use a Needler effectively, and when to use it.

Basic Items You Should Know

-The Needler is a great stealth weapon, as an opponent doesn't get a damage arrow until the needles explode

-The Needler is an 8 shot kill that can sometimes take down others with the blast damage of the explosion

-Needles explode mid-flight if you are too far away

-Because of late damage, a Needler takes a while for the kill, so high tail it or switch weapons as soon as you see contact from the first Needle


When to Use it

The Needler is completely ineffective at long range, and is less effective at a range of less than the length of 2 warthogs. The Needler can be extremely useful in a slayer game that doesn't have a pistol start. If you are in a normal slayer game (plasma pistol starts) this can be considered a very effective weapon. The Needler works best in the smaller maps, and is useful in the Sidewinder tunnels. A Needler is also a great weapon against a sniper. A sniper is often in-scope, and will not see needles coming, therefore, it is very useful to shoot a clip, retreat into hiding, and get the kill.


How to Use It

Aiming is the hardest thing about using the Needler, and a good player can easily beat you in normal combat. This is where most people assume that the needler sucks, they use it for normal combat, instead of a stealth combat weapon. Most unaware players (unless they know a sniper is near) tend to walk in a fairly straight line to wherever they are going. Depending on range, you lead significantly more than other guns. The rule of thumb is the following. If I was standing at one end of Warlock, and you were running across the other, I would aim about 10-20 feet in front of you. If you didn't see me shoot, you would walk right into the path of Needles. A useful tip is to not shoot in a straight line, instead, move your reticule along the path the person will be traveling at about half the speed they can run (in case the notice the attack). Never empty an entire clip unless you are in the middle of a firefight (which I suggest you avoid if they have a pistol or shotgun). When attacking the unaware, shoot half the clip at most, and 8 shots at the least. Remember that people don't notice they are punctured unless they hear the noise of a shot breaking, this is extremely effective against snipers. You should also take note that the Needler is the worst thing other than a plasma pistol against a vehicle.

Counter Tactics

If you see the shots being fired, you can counter very easily. Wait for the Needles to get about five feet away, and jump to the right or left. You can also duck behind a hill or wall when they get too close for comfort. In a map where you know a needler user is likely to be, don't be consistent with your path. At random intervals, change direction, crouch and do things you would do when avoiding a sniper (god no please don't jump).

  • 12.30.2006 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: darekster2ongame
Subject: A Basic Guide to The Needler (and how to counter a good user)
The basic guide to the needler is to never pick it up and to shoot the stupid person using one. 'Nuff said. :)

  • 12.30.2006 8:01 PM PDT
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  • 12.30.2006 8:21 PM PDT

Posted by: darekster2ongame


You should also take note that the Needler is the worst thing other than a plasma pistol against a vehicle.


The plasma pistol is actually very effective agaisnt vehicles. an overcharge shot will take out the driver's sheilds. In which you can then take them out with a grenade or secondary gun, or the driver realizes he/she might die and runs away. But If you dont hit the vehicle with the shot then ya, its not much better than a needler.

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I was just about to say that, Cannon.

I mean, come on, what player is dumb enough to stand still so he can let the needles stack up in his ass before he gets a case of explosive diarrhea? I guess a lot of them, apparently.

  • 12.30.2006 8:24 PM PDT
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I was just about to say that, Cannon.

I mean, come on, what player is dumb enough to stand still so he can let the needles stack up in his ass before he gets a case of explosive diarrhea? I guess a lot of them, apparently.


AFKers, mostly.

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  • 12.30.2006 8:28 PM PDT

I find the needler the most useful on Hang 'em High. because there's not much maneuvering room up on the catwalks, and most people don't like falling.
Or the situation goes like this:
Omg! look at teh n00b wit teh Needler!!1 hes such a n00b! haha! i shot him wit my pistool!! wait wats that sound? oh noes! I died from needles, and that nade he threw took out every1 next 2 mee!!!!1

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Great post. The Needler is totally underrated. The idea is to sneak up on someone with it or fire in close quarters; so if you lose that advantage, you need a reliable alternative like the pistol or shotgun. Thanks for the info!

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Pink death is what I call it ^_^

Once in a slayer mach at hang em high I only used the needler, at the end of the game I had about 35 kills and only 4 deaths. The guys I was against were no push overs.

Good post!

  • 12.31.2006 6:07 AM PDT
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The needler is obsolete in every single situation to every single other weapon.

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The only time i get kills with the needler it is out of pure luck. Usually on the Chill out bridge facing back towards the red base will i kill someone. Every other level i find it usless.

  • 12.31.2006 8:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wildkyle1990
Pink death is what I call it ^_^

Once in a slayer mach at hang em high I only used the needler, at the end of the game I had about 35 kills and only 4 deaths. The guys I was against were no push overs.

Good post!


No offense mate but that really isn't possible, either you used other guys, they sucked, or they were AFK.

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Obviously, a lot of you don't play custom maps on CE with modified needler guns. Nasty weapons they can be. But even on PC, they can be pretty good, depending on the situation. But I mostly use them when I can't find an oppenent, it's basically a good flare gun.

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The Needler:

Completely useless at Long Range
Almost Completely useless at Medium Range
At close range is ebaten by any gun, since you can not hit with it if opponents are strafing or simply running to one side.

Projecties are very slow, take alot of hits in a row to kill, and dont lock on to invisible players.

Completely useless against vehicles.

You might be able to kill someone if they are not looking at you, but then again if you wanted to you could just melee them in the back, or shotgun, assault rifle, flame thrower, rocket, 3sk, snipe, nade, sticky, fuel rod, or simply plasma freeze kill them, with a greater chance of success.

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  • 12.31.2006 9:41 AM PDT
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if you unload a clip in their face their vision is blocked so much you can just watch them die or pull ouut your other weapon an unload with no problem.

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The needler is very good in Wizard. So is the AR. Best places to use the needler is on tight maps, hallways or catwalks. Haha, this never happened to me, but I can just imagine picking up a needler in Infinity, and having a 1 on 1 fight-to-the-death duel with a random enemy on the highest bridge of the highest peak, whipping out the needler, firing a few shots, and scaring the opponent into strafing...un-intentional emo suicide!

  • 12.31.2006 12:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy
The Needler:



Completely useless against vehicles.


Unless your fighting some really, really stupid noobs. then I just camp out on a rock or in a tree and wait for a tank to come rolling by, then I unload it all on them. Lets face it, there's nothing more humiliating than getting killed by little pink splinters while sitting in a Scorpion. if that happens to you, then you must be playing against a god-like Halo player, or you're a -blam!- noob

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Posted by: Cannon_Fodder
Posted by: Nessy
The Needler:



Completely useless against vehicles.


Unless your fighting some really, really stupid noobs. then I just camp out on a rock or in a tree and wait for a tank to come rolling by, then I unload it all on them. Lets face it, there's nothing more humiliating than getting killed by little pink splinters while sitting in a Scorpion. if that happens to you, then you must be playing against a god-like Halo player, or you're a -blam!- noob


Definitely the best use for a needler ever, and it's really effective, too, due to the slow speed of the tank.

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then again a pistol or sniper would give you an easier kill.

rockets fuel rod and flamer would destroy the tank.

plasma pistol and plasma rifle limit the tanks turret movement

the shotgun and assault rifle are not that effective, but still better than the needler.

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A needler is more fun, though.

  • 12.31.2006 4:19 PM PDT
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There are only a few good things about the needler compared to other guns:

1. It's pink.
2. It explodes.
3. Humiliation

  • 12.31.2006 6:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nessy
The needler is obsolete in every single situation to every single other weapon.


You are so wrong it makes my head hurt.

The needler is an extremely powerful gun in limited situations.

1. When you are involved in a firefight with multiple people that are too busy avoiding pistol fire.

2. In combination with a pistol. Fire a clip, pull out your pistol and either your target will strafe predictably into your pistol fire, or be too dumb to strafe away from the needles.

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: darekster2ongame
Subject: A Basic Guide to The Needler (and how to counter a good user)
The basic guide to the needler is to never pick it up and to shoot the stupid person using one. 'Nuff said. :)

Let's see you win Battle Creek standard Slayer against a needler user.

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Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: darekster2ongame
Subject: A Basic Guide to The Needler (and how to counter a good user)
The basic guide to the needler is to never pick it up and to shoot the stupid person using one. 'Nuff said. :)

Let's see you win Battle Creek standard Slayer against a needler user.


Boo yeah!

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