Halo 1 & 2 for PC
This topic has moved here: Subject: Open Letter to Bungie/Gearbox - My Clan's Halo PC Servers Are U...
  • Subject: Open Letter to Bungie/Gearbox - My Clan's Halo PC Servers Are U...
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2
Subject: Open Letter to Bungie/Gearbox - My Clan's Halo PC Servers Are U...
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: GCW Halo
This is what I have been seeing, They make a decated server that is just like yours


I'm not seeing that there's a whole lot that Gearbox or Bungie can do to prevent that from happening. It's known as phishing, and it is the responsibility of you and your users to educate yourselves on the tactics of your enemies and join the correct server. Have your users add the clan server to their favorites in Xfire and simply join at the click of a button. Problem solved.

If for whatever reason that is an unacceptable solution, simply press F1 in-game to check the IP of the server you're playing on. The people who use rcon need to be trained to guard against this exploit.

A longer term solution would be to find out who's responsible for the offending server and send a complaint to their ISP. Go into the offending server, press F1, then do a lookup on the IP to see who owns it.

  • 01.01.2007 9:20 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I stand corrected, This is hapening all our server as well not just the ones that they make, even when they are banned they come right back,
The servers are begin locked down and they can join even after the rcon password has been changed,
So again this is Not just happening on their servers but the clans server as well.
I dont know but it sucks.

[Edited on 1/2/2007]

  • 01.02.2007 6:11 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I am the leader of GHS. I have been emailing back and forth to Microsoft about this and I also email gearbox about this as well. Microsoft and the gamehost has suggested that we post in the Bungie forums informing the community about the hack. If they are using the same RCON engine for Halo2 then the hack will be working on Halo2 when it comes out. Here is a screenshot of the person that we believe made the program. **Warning it contains strong language **

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6427/lawlhackedca1.jpg

You can see for yourself the program is basically sniffing packets that go to and from the Halo server. When it see the packet that contain the rcon password it will display it in a text box. You can see the Teamspeak tab on the screen shot as well. We don't know if they are using this program to get into our ts as well.

Change the rcon password and they still get it, lock the server and they get in.
They have even gone as far as to upload modded maps onto our server without that the use of FTP. Now figure that one out. But it has happen to us and it will happen to other clans as well.

Bungie, Gearbox, Microsoft - the gaming needs a fix for this problem. The game is still on the shelves at the store and people for the first time will buy and play Halo. But it is very difficult to play and moderate your own server that you rent from a game host to only have it hacked because of a FLAW in the haloded.exe software.

  • 01.03.2007 12:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

So it IS a flaw.

As such, it should be fixed. This is basically the final test here; If Microsoft and Gearbox care about the end-users of their software AT ALL, they WILL fix this problem.

  • 01.03.2007 1:55 PM PDT

Oh, I see. If they're using the same RCON code for H2V, this definately needs to be fixed. Thanks for bringing it to the community's attention.

  • 01.03.2007 2:57 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

This does need to be solved, that is a flaw thats needs to be fixed no matter what. A hole in the Halo security that big will be a huge problem

  • 01.03.2007 3:05 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Heroic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I don't mean to change the mood, but this terrible thing for your clans is actually great for most of us(assuming it can be fixed), as the Halo PC world may finally see some attention and fixes as well. I hope H2V uses the same code, and it is decided that both games' codes be fixed.

  • 01.03.2007 3:45 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

At first I thought a quick Google search would clear things up, but now, I am suddenly very nervous.

  • 01.03.2007 8:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

This is major. You guys know what this means? THERE IS A MAJOR DEFECT IN THIS PRODUCT. This defect can cause the loss of personal financial investments (server renting) involved with the game. On top of that, if running dedicated servers becomes impossible, there will be no servers powerful enough to support 16 players with a decent amount of bandwidth. As such, it will eventually be false advertising, cause the package promised me "the ultimate Halo challenge with all-new online multiplayer for up to 16."

Defective products should be refunded or fixed. That's all there is too, it. They (meaning either Gearbox or Microsoft) need to find a way to fix the problem, or give us the money we wasted on a defective product.

  • 01.03.2007 9:10 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Elder Legendary Member

Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Microsoft and Bungie won't move until this becomes scandalous. I'll drop a synopsis of this issue over at ZDnet and see if that doesn't kick them into gear.

  • 01.03.2007 9:46 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: Aj6627
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

edit. Nvm

[Edited on 1/4/2007]

  • 01.04.2007 4:35 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: Aj6627
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Digg this!

I submitted it to Digg, so everyone, please digg the story. Hopefully it'll get enough attention to get MS, Bungie, and Gearbox to fix this.

  • 01.04.2007 4:45 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Heroic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

done

  • 01.04.2007 5:11 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

An easy fix would be to distrubute a member ID and a password. Then monitor the activity of the members and ban the supicious ones, perhaps catching some valuable information in the process

  • 01.04.2007 10:27 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

i didnt really read this at first, i was like they will never release a patch K THNX BAI

but now... god, they HAVE to do something if H2V is using the same code.

keep us informed about this. i really want to know if there will be a 2.0 patch (if there would be a reason to, this is it)

  • 01.04.2007 10:38 PM PDT

Halo Custom Edition: p0lar_bearâ„¢
Favorite Server: Diesel PL 3rd Server - NY

My Maps:
BioHalo v1.1a Singleplayer Map for CE

BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.

We don't give a -blam!- about Halo and want to get back at all the -blam!- little -blam!- that play it (11 year olds). We hope that this software will cause the death of Halo PC.

Oh yay. Sounds like some 10 year old has internets rage over a video game.

And this is bad. Real bad. I know Bungie doesn't support Halo CE, and that they probably dropped support for Halo PC, but this security hole is way too much.

If Bungie won't green-light a patch for it, hopefully rec0 can release his secure server app.

  • 01.04.2007 11:10 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member

Download Halo Custom Edition for user created maps!
Link
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=410
The few, the proud, the leet.

Posted by: p0lar_bear
[quote]If Bungie won't green-light a patch for it, hopefully rec0 can release his secure server app.


The PC kiddies will kick and scream, but if it has to come to rec0 releasing his server, I'm begging him to cut down on all the extra goodies and leave it to CE. Forced migration ftw!

  • 01.04.2007 11:30 PM PDT

Halo Custom Edition: p0lar_bearâ„¢
Favorite Server: Diesel PL 3rd Server - NY

My Maps:
BioHalo v1.1a Singleplayer Map for CE

BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.

I'm now under the strong belief that the app is actually a hoax.

Change your rcon, ftp, and teamspeak passwords, and don't tell anyone what they were changed to. See how long it takes, if at all, for the rcon to be cracked. It sounds like someone got a hold of your FTP password, read the init file, and got the rcon. The teamspeak o nthe other hand is an entirely different story, one of which I have no idea about.

  • 01.05.2007 8:25 AM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2