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Subject: What's in your CD player right now?
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anyone into rammstein oomph or die toten hosen?

  • 05.26.2004 11:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Nice work people. I totally agree with MakaVeli - music is not really an art form anymore, these days. And therefore, it's not music.

Careful, those waters you tread are deep. ;)

Gaming is totally an industry, now. So does that mean game development cannot be an art form? If Bungie is part of the industry, does this mean that Halo 2 is not a video game?

Sorry to get a bit off topic, I just had to point out that the logic seemed a little faulty. ;) Something I don't think a lot of people recognize about the world is that anything, if it can be considered an art, also comes with its own industry. Art in any shape or form is a commodity, and this should not be forgotten- even when making commentary on music.

Anyhow, I don't have a cd player anymore. Well, there's one in my truck, but I don't think anything's in it right now. The last thing I listened to on my iPod was a track from the Xenosaga soundtrack.


I think he was trying to point out the obvious change in effort that artists now put out, when compared to what was put out in the 60s or 70s

I've even heard some rappers, groups, singers, etc., who admit they don't write their songs, and the songs are put together so quickly, you wonder if they really have a lot to say, or if their motivation is money

Maybe he kinda contradicted himself, a bit, but he was thinking the same thing that I was

It's not exactly right to compare games to music, on the lines of art, simply because music is more easy to read. Songs that have a catchy beat, or something that will 100% attractive a large audience of listeners, all fall under the category of "pop" music

And if you ask me, this can't be accomplished in games. If a game sucks, the consumer will take notice and never buy, whereas in music, if something is popular, the CD is bought. It can argued the line is fine, and that the difference isn't anytihng big to point out, but I can see it

And so can others. Games become popular because they deserve to be that way; music is all about what's hot, whether it's good quality or not. Of course, this is all in opinion, but it'd be hard not to notice these things...in my opinion :)

Listen to some "Stairway to Heaven", and compare it to something like "Tipsy", and well, my point is made :) haha

And play some Halo, and compare it to a crappy FPS, and my point is made again

The difference is is that people will actually buy the CD with "Tipsy" on it; most wouldn't dish out 50 or 40 dollars for a poorly made game

  • 05.26.2004 12:04 PM PDT
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ahooha

  • 05.26.2004 12:10 PM PDT
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all very true, but how do you explain the success of series like Tekken, if not by popularitiy? which imo has found it's superior in the VirtuaFighter series and/or the same company's Soulcalibur series.

[Edited on 5/26/2004 12:12:33 PM]

  • 05.26.2004 12:11 PM PDT
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I'm listening to a lot of Icelandic groups, such as Sukkut.

  • 05.26.2004 12:23 PM PDT

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  • 05.26.2004 1:01 PM PDT
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WAT

HOW COME I HAVENT HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY HAVE IN PINK FLOYD IN!!!!

  • 05.26.2004 1:36 PM PDT
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@ Badpoo:

It's a forum, not a voice chat ;)

  • 05.26.2004 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: BadPoo89
WAT

HOW COME I HAVENT HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY HAVE IN PINK FLOYD IN!!!!



That's weird that you say that, because that's who I left off my original list

Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb (apologies)

  • 05.26.2004 1:39 PM PDT
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Pink Floyd- "wish you were here"

  • 05.26.2004 1:45 PM PDT
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music is in my cd player

  • 05.26.2004 2:33 PM PDT
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really? mine contains a cd.

(Joke bad enough? :)

  • 05.26.2004 2:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: anewdisease666
anyone into rammstein?


rammstein rocks!

  • 05.26.2004 2:42 PM PDT
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AC/DC

  • 05.26.2004 2:58 PM PDT
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does anyone know Therion or Apocalyptica?

  • 05.26.2004 3:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Weird citizen
does anyone know Therion or Apocalyptica?


I've heard of Apocalyptica, but I've never...heard them

  • 05.26.2004 3:26 PM PDT
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you should.

  • 05.26.2004 3:27 PM PDT
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ok

What kind of music is it anyway?

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well it's metal, but it's played by four guys with cello's, no vocals(mostly), they originally used to cover metallica, but their own stuff is way better than those covers imo.

  • 05.26.2004 3:31 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

Would I start a huge flame war if I said that I like Linkin Park and System of a Down?
I also listen to some oldies on the radio, like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, and I can't think of any other names, but I do like others.

  • 05.26.2004 4:11 PM PDT
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Nothing wrong with liking something popular. Good choices though :) Some fairly sound bands.

  • 05.26.2004 4:20 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

It's nice to know someone else likes Linkin Park :) It seems like everybody I talk to hates them. But maybe it's becuase everybody in my school likes rap, and I hate rap. Remember kids, you can't spell crap without rap. Kudos to whoever knows what that is from.

  • 05.26.2004 4:26 PM PDT
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That's weird, I thought every Halo fan likes Linkin Park

And I don't know where that's from, but it's not true

The people representing rap nowadays are doing a horrible job, with exception to few. Rap has some of the best songs ever made, but the groups and artists from today are just making the genre look like how you described it: crap

  • 05.26.2004 4:37 PM PDT

I hate everything, but it's not my fault.

Well I've never heard any of your good rap songs, so why don't you name some (or at least the artist), and I'll try to listen to it somehow.

  • 05.26.2004 5:16 PM PDT
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don't like linkin park...the rapping in it pissed me off...rammstein and spare lead those are my favorites

  • 05.26.2004 5:23 PM PDT

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