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Subject: An Apology

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

A few weeks ago... or maybe a month... who knows... I posted a not-so-cool complaint about the Halo 3 Beta entrance competitions in foreign countries, which evolved into a rant about how users tend to overlook and misread threads much too often, how mods don't do their jobs correctly, and how Bungie has evolved to develope a lack of care for the community. I also said I wasn't going to appear on the forums anymore.

I've come back to simply say that I offer my most humble apology to Achronos, the moderators, most of the members of these forums, and to Bungie as a whole. After thinking back on what I had said in my thread over the past few weeks, I realize that the tone which I used was out of line. I won't humor any of you with the probable defensive reasons as to why I used such a tone, but using the tone was unnecessary. It was too harsh for the circumstances, and I was too blinded by anger and stress to see that. It was unfair to all of you.

However, I'm going to make it clear that I still hold to my opinions which I stated in that thread weeks ago. The recent release of news regarding the Halo 3 Beta test changes nothing. I'm only clarifying that so people don't get the wrong idea as to what my intentions of giving my apology are. I apologize for how I acted to you, not for what I was thinking at the time. Please understand that.

And I will leave with that. My apology remains, but I will not. As I said in the old thread, I'm not comming back to these forums, at least not for a very long while. Take care.

  • 01.04.2007 3:45 PM PDT
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Death's course has hit...

Farewell young lad.

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  • 01.04.2007 3:51 PM PDT
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No apology needed. In my opinion anyway. You had a day like many of of us did/do/have/had/soon-will-have. It doesn't mean that you should have to apologize for your actions, nor does it mean you need to leave the forums. It just means that you just need to take a break for a while. Well, if that is the way you feel Shai, so be it. See you around, and as I said, I don't think an apology is really needed. We have all behaved like that in the past, whether it be on the forums, or in real life. Just don't beat yourself up about it.

  • 01.04.2007 3:52 PM PDT
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Forgive Shai! Ah well, despite the fact I agreed with your thread, Shai, it takes a large degree of courage and morality to apologise on the internet. Where inhibitions, dignity and morality are often forgotten.

  • 01.04.2007 3:53 PM PDT
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Agreed.

[Edited on 1/4/2007]

  • 01.04.2007 3:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pezza
Forgive Shai! Ah well, despite the fact I agreed with your thread, Shai, it takes a large degree of courage and morality to apologise on the internet. Where inhibitions, dignity and morality are often forgotten.


Pretty well said.

  • 01.04.2007 3:57 PM PDT
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Ah well, time to be moving on then.

  • 01.04.2007 3:58 PM PDT

Ach! Was ist los?

That Shai would apologize in such a fashion speaks of the high caliber of his character.

Yes, I'm serious.

  • 01.04.2007 3:59 PM PDT

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No problem man.

  • 01.04.2007 4:13 PM PDT

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There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.

"Discord brings resolution", meaning that if we all just agree with each other, nothing will ever get discussed. We all like Bungie, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't question some of the things that go on. If you have a problem with something, or how some things are being done, speak out about it! Give your opinion, give facts/support, and then be willing to discuss it. I'm pretty sure that I remember the thread in question, and I didn't have a problem with it. There are days where we are pissed off, and it comes across in the forums. I know that I have been like that in a few of my posts. People have PM'ed me and said that I had a bad tone, and they were right, I was being an ass-clown that day. It happens. However, those are the exceptions, and they do not make us who we are. If you post helpful and well-thought threads/posts 95% of the time, that 5% isn't the problem. We all have bad days, and we all have good ones. Come back and tell NOF how much the current Optimatch suxorz!! I hear he loves hearing that...

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  • 01.04.2007 4:29 PM PDT
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Shai is the nicest person ever.

  • 01.04.2007 4:52 PM PDT
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As I stated back then in a PM to you: It be a damn shame if you left these forums, even if it's just for "a long time".

[Edited on 1/4/2007]

  • 01.04.2007 4:57 PM PDT

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And I think you're not the only one who should apoligize. I myself am going to apoligize for, the way I see it, feeding the fire in your thread. I was trying to make you see it my way, which in all honesty, probably wasn't done in the correct manner, or might not have had to be done all it. It'd be a shame to see you leave, as I believe you're one of the best members that I've met. :)

  • 01.04.2007 5:02 PM PDT

I hope this member hasn't left. Although I didn't really know him/her, it seemed that member is and could be a valuable member of the community just because of their ability to apologize over the internet.

  • 01.04.2007 5:22 PM PDT

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I hate to hear your leaving for good. Have fun out there. Maybe i'll see you on live.

  • 01.04.2007 6:01 PM PDT

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Why would you apologize for being right?

  • 01.04.2007 6:37 PM PDT
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I want Shai to have my man babies.

  • 01.04.2007 7:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pezza
Forgive Shai! Ah well, despite the fact I agreed with your thread, Shai, it takes a large degree of courage and morality to apologise on the internet. Where inhibitions, dignity and morality are often forgotten.


Pretty well said.


Amen to that.

[Edited on 1/4/2007]

  • 01.04.2007 7:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Pezza
Forgive Shai! Ah well, despite the fact I agreed with your thread, Shai, it takes a large degree of courage and morality to apologise on the internet. Where inhibitions, dignity and morality are often forgotten.

Ditto

  • 01.04.2007 8:13 PM PDT
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C'mon Shai, no one wants you to leave.

Especially for this. Forums are meant to express opinions and concerns towards a certain group of people that share the same interests as you. If there were never opinions or complaints, then no one would know what was going on wrong and wouldn't be able to try to rectify the situation. In the way you posted your complaint in the other thread showed that you cared for those people who were not able to play the beta, and that it thoroughly pissed you off to know this; there is nothing wrong with showing that either.

[Edited on 1/4/2007]

  • 01.04.2007 8:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pezza
Forgive Shai! Ah well, despite the fact I agreed with your thread, Shai, it takes a large degree of courage and morality to apologise on the internet. Where inhibitions, dignity and morality are often forgotten.

Ditto

ditto. again.

  • 01.04.2007 8:48 PM PDT
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I think it's extremely polite of you to apologize. As has been said, everyone has days when they're pissed and need to complain. (I was when i realized i couldn't play the Alpha cause I don't have a 360 and probably won't have one for a while.)
And everyone is entitled to their opinions, as you are to yours.

  • 01.04.2007 9:29 PM PDT

MY XBOX DIED THAT'S WHY.

I have much respect for you being able to apologize like that, Shai. It be a damn shame if you left these forums, though. It's people like you who keep me coming back here. :(

  • 01.04.2007 10:48 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

You need to let me or Jeff(Traitorous) know when you get a 360. See ya around, Shai.

  • 01.04.2007 11:03 PM PDT

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