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Subject: Lower the posts-per-day limit to 4.
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Posted by: True Underdog
Most of the people that have disagreed with the idea would have a good enough "karma" to be above the restrictions anyway.


Shouldn't you be regarding the points as moot if the people who disagree are under the karma limit? If people who aren't affected by a system think that said system is unfair, then isn't the system unfair?

  • 01.10.2007 6:01 PM PDT
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You have to be joking. It would destroy the forums. As for the Flood, it never was a place for pure intelligence. That is what groups are for.

  • 01.10.2007 6:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: lilshorty6478
Either way.....your idea is crazy. I don't like it.

Which is precisely why I like it.

  • 01.10.2007 6:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54

I understand and respect that view. I tend to share it too (but to a point). As the site is currently configured, all members are created equal. And they remain so.

It's the second part that I am not so sure of. I don't mind everyone starting off on the same foot. But we have an entire spectrum of members and their actions. We do have "negative consequences" when someone is non-contributive (blacklists). But we have no real rewards or recognition for those who really are more than just an "average" member.

Equality is fine. When it comes to potential and core abilities. "All men are created equal", but it doesn't end there. In real life we're all given our basic rights and abilities, it is what we do with them that allows someone to be exceptional, reviled or part of the crowd.

I'm a fan of equality, but I am not an advocate of keeping people down to prevent them from standing out.

It's a subtle thing, and very rarely pulled off well. But to impose a "lowest common denominator" rewards mediocrity and discourages excellence.


Exactly. And besides, people can just make groups if they don't want "I like pie!", posts.

  • 01.10.2007 6:13 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: ReZeNeR
Exactly. And besides, people can just make groups if they don't want "I like pie!", posts.

Yeah, because it'd be horrible if people couldn't post "lawl *hugs*" in every thread.

  • 01.10.2007 6:18 PM PDT

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4 threads, eh maybe. 4 posts, are you out of your god damn mind! Picture this situation if you will. "...and that concludes my theory, any responses." Dead silence. They used up their daily posts, and now a possibly great thread dies because of a useless rule.

  • 01.10.2007 6:37 PM PDT
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I don't see what's so wrong with the " LOL *pets kitten* " posts. I wouldn't want a forum that was serious all the time with no humor relief, and I wouldn't expect a forum about a video game company to be like that.

oh and...


Deleting your own posts when you're in the wrong is cowardly.

Posted by: VII Toast
We just ban spammers. End of problem.



  • 01.10.2007 6:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Mabian
Posted by: True Underdog
Most of the people that have disagreed with the idea would have a good enough "karma" to be above the restrictions anyway.


Shouldn't you be regarding the points as moot if the people who disagree are under the karma limit? If people who aren't affected by a system think that said system is unfair, then isn't the system unfair?

Well put, Mabian.

  • 01.10.2007 7:01 PM PDT
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The thing that annoys me about a post limit is that spammers will be even HARDER to spot. Right now, you get a pageful of "BUNGIE EATS MY ASS" over and over, and the moderators can spot and kill them rather easy. But if there's a post limit, the spammers will only post as much as any other person will, and it'll be near on impossible to spot them.

And I know we can't rely on people actually, I dunno, reporting spammers, because nearly no one does that. I say LET people spam loads, it just makes it easier to ban them.

-TGP-

  • 01.10.2007 7:08 PM PDT

I don't like simply for the fact that I would not be able to have as much 'fun' on these forums as I would like, what with being restricted to such a small amount of posts.

Then there would be that lack of activity, lack of humour as everyone tries to make their post count towards something... boring much?

I like it how it is now, but I do think they should make a tighter restriction on how many threads one can make in 24 hours.

  • 01.10.2007 7:23 PM PDT

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My gamertag is SHADOWRIDERJP.

I don't like the original idea of only 4 posts a day. It would kill the forums. I try to post the best I can on every one of my posts. I think a posts-per-hour limit would be good though.

I can post in a good intelligent thread 4 times. The 4-a-day limit would stop spamers, but don't we have mods?

  • 01.10.2007 9:18 PM PDT

You say tomato; I say potato.

4?!
I average 10 posts a day.

  • 01.10.2007 9:29 PM PDT

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Much as I like to stray from popular belief, I have to agree with the general concensist. That would do more damage than it would do good for the community. The idea of a forum is to be able to express your ideas freely, albeit with limitations, and doing that would just add to said limitations.

  • 01.10.2007 9:42 PM PDT
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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

I don't see anything wrong with a 4 topic a day limit. What is it right now? 8? I never make topics, so I've never hit it. Although, Whatever it is right now is probably fine too.

Did I read that right? 4 posts a day? That would be insane, as most everyone has already said. If you think the Maw or the Library is slow, then you'll hate every forum if this was implemented. I can't even imagine how slow the Maw or the library would move then.

We would lose a lot of members too. Maybe that's your goal, but I don't think its Bungie's goal to make their message board almost unusable, being that they use it for feedback and all that. I don't really think spam is much of a problem on this site anyway. I've seen much worse on my journey through the intrawebs.

I think that a 4 posts a day rule would generate more problems than it fixes. Such as:

"Screw this, I'll use my last post today to curse out everyone!" Which would happen a lot to people who left when they were caught off guard with this.

But what do I know? Maybe it will be a godsend. I wouldn't really know because I'd probably stop coming here. The PM system is way too buggy to communicate with everyone, so I'd have 4 posts a day or nothing at all.

  • 01.10.2007 9:44 PM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

Four topics a day is a good idea. If I had any say I would have it at only one topic per 24 hours.

Replies should be limitless, to some degree. (IE the current spam filter).

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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  • 01.10.2007 10:12 PM PDT

- Mike

HELL NO!

Not a good idea.

[Edited on 1/10/2007]

  • 01.10.2007 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: jmh9072
Posted by: Mabian
Posted by: True Underdog
Most of the people that have disagreed with the idea would have a good enough "karma" to be above the restrictions anyway.


Shouldn't you be regarding the points as moot if the people who disagree are under the karma limit? If people who aren't affected by a system think that said system is unfair, then isn't the system unfair?

Well put, Mabian.


He's right. It was very well put. I don't have an argument for you, Mabian. I'm not going to be a fool and try to slap an argument together, either. I've thought about it a lot (while eating dinner, reading e-mails, and the like) and I'd have to agree that putting a post-restriction isn't the brightest idea. It's not necessarily a horrible idea, but it's basically pointing towards some sort of rewards system.

There should be a rewards system in place, somewhere. Not necessarily restrictions of posts to those who aren't "rewarded" but something should be implemented. Being productive is satisfactory enough for me, because I like hearing and reading other's opinions (like yours, Mabian), but it's not hard to tell that Mister Average Joe Forum Goer isn't going to post many productive things unless he gets something out of it.

Many people are "productive" because they aspire to be moderators, while others do it for the sheer fact of that's how they want to spend time on the forums.

I like to joke on these boards, but I can be serious. I just think that some sort of rewards system should be implemented to pursuade other forum members to be more productive.

If that's what it takes.

  • 01.10.2007 10:35 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

A thread limit? Yeah, that would make sense. Four post limit? Hell to the no! Did it occur to you that you might be responding to more than four dieas per day? Not sure about you, but I like to respond to different people with different posts, unless those people were talking about the same thing.

  • 01.11.2007 12:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: True Underdog
There should be a rewards system in place, somewhere. Not necessarily restrictions of posts to those who aren't "rewarded" but something should be implemented. Being productive is satisfactory enough for me, because I like hearing and reading other's opinions (like yours, Mabian), but it's not hard to tell that Mister Average Joe Forum Goer isn't going to post many productive things unless he gets something out of it.


As I said to Recon, I am a man who is utterly opposed to any sort of rewards system. But as I also said, my opinion is a product of my philosophical ideals, and thus are subject to argument. Any sort of rewards system, be it rewarding more threads or posts per day, or a rank, or anything of the like, is something I am opposed to. I believe in being good for the sake of itself, and to implement a reward system would mean that people would be good for the sake of the reward.

But then, I'd much rather a member be good for the wrong reasons than be bad for any reason.

  • 01.11.2007 1:15 PM PDT

$x='print chr(36),"x=",chr(39),$x,chr(39),";\n",$x; ';
print chr(36),"x=",chr(39),$x,chr(39),";\n",$x;

I work at Microsoft. I have nothing to do with Halo and nothing I say is "the official word".

I hope you mean threads per day, because 4 posts is ridiculous...

  • 01.11.2007 1:20 PM PDT
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Four posts a day? You've got be kidding.

Four threads is a good amount, (five is better) but four posts? Hell no. That's murder the community; I'd leave if it happened.

  • 01.11.2007 1:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mabian
But then, I'd much rather a member be good for the wrong reasons than be bad for any reason.


That's where we see eye to eye. It's the lesser of two evils.

  • 01.11.2007 1:35 PM PDT

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This board is (in my opinion) already far too limited. Our discussions in the flood (and often other forums too) have become so restricted, the only thing left to talk about is "hax and.. GURLS!" along with other repeat topics. It really pisses me off. Instead of punishing everybody for something only a select few people do, there just need to be harsher punishments for those who break rules (and more security so they can't circumvent perma bans, etc.). This site has a moderator to member ratio of (I'm making a ROUGH estimate) about one for every hundred thousand. Honestly, thats ridiculous.. there need to be more moderators, so that system which is totally logical can be put in place.

Anyways, back on topic.

Limiting the post per day limit to four sounds bad to me. We should be able to post as much as we want, and if somebody wants to act like a dumbass just let them get banned! Its not like the place is actually getting hurt from one pointless topic. Seriously.. oh my god I just thought of a word for this site:

"hypochondriac"

It describes this site perfectly. People will do anything to find a "problem", make it "better," then earn some kiss ass points. There is NOTHING wrong with our community, just the way its run. STOP! KEEP READING! Now, when I say run, I am not making any references towards Achronos, the mods, etc but just the way people go about their business here. The mods are great and Achronos does have a good site going here.. but come on. Not everybody in the Flood/Halo 3 forum is a mindless idiot!!

..This community definitely sees the glass as half empty. [/rant]

[Edited on 1/11/2007]

  • 01.11.2007 2:19 PM PDT
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its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

Posted by: impurity
If I'm ever limited besides the spam filter in place, I'll pack up my balls and leave.

  • 01.11.2007 2:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mabian
Posted by: True Underdog
There should be a rewards system in place, somewhere. Not necessarily restrictions of posts to those who aren't "rewarded" but something should be implemented. Being productive is satisfactory enough for me, because I like hearing and reading other's opinions (like yours, Mabian), but it's not hard to tell that Mister Average Joe Forum Goer isn't going to post many productive things unless he gets something out of it.


As I said to Recon, I am a man who is utterly opposed to any sort of rewards system. But as I also said, my opinion is a product of my philosophical ideals, and thus are subject to argument. Any sort of rewards system, be it rewarding more threads or posts per day, or a rank, or anything of the like, is something I am opposed to. I believe in being good for the sake of itself, and to implement a reward system would mean that people would be good for the sake of the reward.

But then, I'd much rather a member be good for the wrong reasons than be bad for any reason.

I fully agree, I have the same views as you Mabian. One should be good and a productive because they wish to, not because they are kissing ass and want a reward. Although, I am not directly opposed to the reward system. If it were implemented correctly, then it would be an amazing thing. I am half and half on the reward system. In one sense I see it as a good thing, however on the other hand; many more people would become kiss asses. And as stated before, I do not like this idea one bit.

[Edited on 1/11/2007]

  • 01.11.2007 2:41 PM PDT

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