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Subject: Who REALLY released the FLOOD?...find out the TRU7H. *novel spoilers*
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DUH we know that! On halo THE LIBARY 343 says that the Covenant released the flood, sorry to make your work seem like such a waste.

  • 05.25.2004 5:48 AM PDT
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but - he has totally wittled it down to the actual culprit. well done man, nice work! 8 )

good to see someone has a great eye for detail in these forums of late. once again, well spotted.

  • 05.25.2004 5:50 AM PDT
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[color=orange]AOKBALLAH!!!![/color]

Thanks, Chief8. And Golden One, your input is no doubt appreciated, but slightly belittling.

lmao...."ORT ORT ORT!!!!"

[Edited on 5/25/2004 5:53:29 AM]

  • 05.25.2004 5:52 AM PDT
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<insert thumbsup smiley here>

  • 05.25.2004 5:54 AM PDT
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Haha.

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I tried....Spaces aren't counted end-to-end, so try to ignore the dashes between his visor and crap

[Edited on 5/25/2004 6:07:06 AM]

  • 05.25.2004 5:57 AM PDT
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But...then again, i wonder HOW they were released.....i want the DETAILS of 'Rolamee's folly.....

I smell a fanfic brewing......

  • 05.25.2004 8:31 AM PDT
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There are tons of fan fics on this topic. Oh well.

My best guess is that the Covenant, in all their zeal for Forerunner piecs of junk, tripped a few systems. Those systems were the fail-safes keeping the Flood in stasis and contained. They were released and BAM! the Flood are everywhere. Tihs was most likely done with a little bit of sloppy work......let's just blame it on a Grunt and call it a day.

  • 05.26.2004 8:00 AM PDT
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Well put.

Also, are there bajillions of Fanfics on how the Flood were released, or tales of 'Rolamee? Am i just REALLY LATE, or what?

P.S. - like my Chief smiley?

[Edited on 5/26/2004 8:03:42 AM]

  • 05.26.2004 8:02 AM PDT
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You're late

  • 05.26.2004 8:15 AM PDT
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Is it just me, or did everyone read all 3 novels, but me :P?
i think im later than any of you ;)

  • 05.26.2004 9:19 AM PDT
Subject: Who REALLY released the FLOOD?...find out the TRU7H. *novel spoilers*
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I've seen previous posts on the likelihood of the Flood returning to Halo 2, Guilty Spark in tow, and numerous other theories on how they originally got released. The game sets it up so it looks like Keyes doomed us all, but if we pay close attention to Jenkins' mission log, we know the Elite outside looks pretty messed up BEFORE they get inside, and right before we encounter the Infection forms in the log, Second Squad's leader comes screaming in over the com, as if in a terminal distress. So Keyes did NOT release the Flood.

Then...who DID?

I've been reading the Flood Novel over again (third time around - a friend is borrowing the Fall of Reach, and I've read First strike twice already) and came to Chapter VII last night.

Allow me to set the scene, then quote:

The alien known as 'Zamamee, one Elite who actually survived an encounter with our hero, has made it his mission to find the Chief and rid Halo and the rest of the universe of him for good. To propose his final plan, he awaits the approval of the Council, which convenes on board the Truth and Reconciliation. He enters, and finds noone in the typical spotlight.

The Elite was about to turn and leave when a second spot came on, and 'Rolamee's head appeared.

Soha 'Rolamee is the right hand translator of the resident Prophet.

Not attached to his body as it should have been, but on a gore-drenched pedestal, staring vacantly into space. An image of the Prophet appeared and seemed to float in midair. He gestured toward the head. "Sad, isn't it? But discipline must be maintianed."

OK, this page is the one immediately following the depiction of how exactly the Flood takes over Jenkins' body, how he was miraculously able to retain his conciousness while the "other" raped him of all his senses and abilities. This last quote made me stop dead, and think, "WOAH. What if indeed 'Rolamee let out the Flood, and henceforth was punished for his mistake?" I read on, thinking to myself I'd post this tomorrow sometime. The Prophet rambled.

"Halo is old, extremely old,as are it's secrets. Blessings really, which the Forerunner left for us to find, knowing that we would put them to good use. [color=white]But nothing comes without risk, and there are dangers here as well, things which 'Rolamee promised to keep contained, but failed to do so.[/color]

[color=orange]BOOM.[/color] EAT IT, -blam!-ES!

"Now, with the humans blundering about, his failures have been amplified. [color=white]Doors have been opened,[/color] powers have been released, and it is now necessary to shift a considerable amount of our strength to the process of regaining control. Do you understand?" 'Zamamee didn't understand, not in the least, but had no intention of admitting that. Instead, he said "Yes, Excellency." "Good," the Prophet said, "and that brings us to you."

He goes on about 'Zamamee's recent failure to eliminate the Chief, and uses 'Rolamee as both an example and motivation to ensure 'Zamamee's victory, which will inevitably amount to his own eradication. Silly 'Zamamee.

So there we have it. It's been staring us in the face for so long now, it's almost laughable.

Also, i'd like to point out three things pertaining to the underlying tru7h:

ONE, the fact that this passage is first introduced in chapter [color=white]se7en.[/color]

TWO, the fact that it starts out with the intro,
[color=white]Seventh[/color]Cycle, [color=white]49[/color] Units (Covenant Battle Calendar) / Aboard cruiser, Truth and Reconciliation, above Halos surface.

THIRD, it's on page [color=white]177.[/color] Two sevens, and awful close to 117.

God, I love Halo. I love Bungie, too, no less than each other. If someone's already figured this one out, then i'm EXTREMELY sorry, for i apparently missed the memo, and got caught up in my own overwhelming genius to care.


[Edited on 5/25/2004 5:36:02 AM]

  • 05.25.2004 5:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: Victorious
Is it just me, or did everyone read all 3 novels, but me :P?
i think im later than any of you ;)

no i only read 2 novels. i skipped the the flood. i mean i already beat halo, why read a book about it?

  • 05.26.2004 9:44 AM PDT
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i already knew about the covenant releasing the flood, but thanks for finding the exact culprit. silly me, i've read all the books too! guess i missed that part.

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Posted by: Victorious
Is it just me, or did everyone read all 3 novels, but me :P?
i think im later than any of you ;)

no i only read 2 novels. i skipped the the flood. i mean i already beat halo, why read a book about it?


the second book doesn't just cover Master Chief's adventure it's about the covenant and the ODST's also so it is well worth reading, even if its just the new material.
All three books are well worth reading they add so much more to the Halo story

[Edited on 5/26/2004 12:24:22 PM]

  • 05.26.2004 12:23 PM PDT

Posted by: GoldenElite0
DUH we know that! On halo THE LIBARY 343 says that the Covenant released the flood, sorry to make your work seem like such a waste.

We know it was the Covenant but we didn't know which Covenant. Don't yell at him for that.And yes great job.

  • 06.19.2004 8:39 AM PDT
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Awsomely (is that a word?) done. I thought that too for a little. But I forgot about it when I started playing ninja gaiden. (fun game. Not as good as halo though.) Good work pal!

P.S: That chief smile rocks!

  • 06.19.2004 9:13 AM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

.... I'll be god damned.....

Although I already "knew" the Covenant were responsible for releasing the Flood, I didn't think it could be tied directly to 'Rolamee... nice work.... and the number references were pretty damn cool, too.

To point out one thing, however, in response to Golden Elite, what 343 says in The Library is not very clear. He says, "I would conjecture that the other species currently on the installation is responsible for releasing the Flood." Do we really know if 343 really thinks the Chief is Human? Sure, it seems pretty obvious... but there's still some space for other possibilities. He most likely was talking about the Covenant, but people have speculated before that the 343 may not actually think the Chief is human.....

Personally, I believe 343 does think MC is human... but I was just pointing out that other fact.

  • 06.19.2004 9:14 AM PDT