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Subject: gamespot is -blam!- heres why
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you jackass GameSpot doesn't rate games that aren't out yet
the top 10 at the bottom is based on how many people are LOOKING at the pages that are about that game

  • 05.26.2004 7:30 PM PDT
Subject: gamespot is NOT "-blam!-" heres why

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Ok buddy how come you come down on people for calling something "-blam!-" But you never do anything when someone says "OH Jesus Christ!" I find that very rude and think you need to deal with that too.

Because while calling something -blam!- is a specific deflammatory attack against a group of people, using "Jesus Christ" as an expletive is only an offense to christians because in that particular faith, it's considered "taking the lord's name in vain."

I personally don't believe that correcting people on what one religion may consider to be a "sin" to be an act of tolerance. However, if told specifically by Bungie that I should correct people that use the phrase, I will.

  • 05.26.2004 7:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
GameSpot isn't -blam!-. By definition, an organisation can't be -blam!-.


Well, I'm pretty sure the organizing organisation of the -blam!- pride parade are -blam!-.

  • 05.26.2004 8:32 PM PDT
Subject: gamespot is NOT "-blam!-" heres why
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gamestops not "-blam!-" i go there alot and get good deals. i reserved my halo 2 limited editon and guide from their site.

  • 05.26.2004 8:38 PM PDT
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Mechassault one was the most repetetive piece of crap i've ever played. multiplayer consisted of nothing but running around in circles shooting the other guy. Not mention occasioanlly it was fairly unbalanced.

  • 05.26.2004 9:28 PM PDT

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MechAssault 2 multiplayer was a lot of fun, though. Squishing people before they can get into their mech is just plain funny.

However, having played MA2 multi and H2 multi, I'm gonna have to go with Halo 2.

However, Gamespot's known for horrible journalism, so it doesn't surprise me that they disagree.

  • 05.26.2004 9:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Shishka
Ok buddy how come you come down on people for calling something "-blam!-" But you never do anything when someone says "OH Jesus Christ!" I find that very rude and think you need to deal with that too.

Because while calling something -blam!- is a specific deflammatory attack against a group of people, using "Jesus Christ" as an expletive is only an offense to christians because in that particular faith, it's considered "taking the lord's name in vain."

I personally don't believe that correcting people on what one religion may consider to be a "sin" to be an act of tolerance. However, if told specifically by Bungie that I should correct people that use the phrase, I will.




That's a horrible justification... as one once said.

I don't buy this whole argument of a "universal definition" of the word -blam!-. The word -blam!-, by itself, is not a "specific deflammatory attack." If it was, then there would be a universal understanding of the word's meaning, intentions, and overall implications on those in our society. This thread is a prime example that there isn't even a "general" consensus of the word's place or meaning in society. One could take the meaning the word -blam!- from the dictionary, slang, or pop culture; all of which are not defined by Bungie or it's moderators. Because of this, one could understand a need for "general" rules on offensive remarks and such. If the rules are there to stop offensive remarks, as implied, then there should be no doubt that the words/phrases OMFG and Jesus Christ are known to be offensive and disrespectful to certain people.

If the argument is being made that you, as a mod, have no place in telling someone what is right or wrong, then you shouldn't tell anyone that the word -blam!- is wrong. Now that is obviously not the case, and because of that, you should step in and stop offensive remarks against anyone. Christians ARE a specific, defined group of people . Christians, like -blam!-s and any other group, are defined by their beliefs. Everyone has a belief system based off of something other than themself. For that reason, you as a mod SHOULD look out for words that are offensive to all groups of people. Like I said before, if the rules are there to prevent offensive remarks against groups of people, not an organization or religion, then Muslims, -blam!-s, Scientologist, Christians and FILL IN THE BLANK should be considered as people, not a religion or organization, as you have implied.

One might say, "there is no way to look out for every word that is offensive to everyone." For that reason, one should take into context the statement that is made, not a word within it, before slamming down a verdict. It isn't helpful, understandable, or plausable to take a single word from within a statement, and then define that statement's meaning from that word. There are no exceptions, that I can think of, to this general rule; especially when used in the act of condemnation. All in all, If the rules are put in place by Bungie, then we all should follow them, but to hold a particular group's interest above others isn't justified nor acceptable:)


[Edited on 5/26/2004 10:07:45 PM]

  • 05.26.2004 10:02 PM PDT

The difference between "-blam!-" and "Christ" is that one is an attack against individuals, and one an attack against an organisation.
But I suppose you have a point. I guess that because the official faith of most of the countries represented here is Christianity then we've got nothing against attacking ourselves. And that's really the deciding factor.

[Edited on 5/27/2004 12:28:16 AM]

  • 05.27.2004 12:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: goweb
The difference between "-blam!-" and "Christ" is that one is an attack against individuals, and one an attack against an organisation.


Quoted for emphasis.

It's funny, though, because to the Christian Christ is a real, living person, who can actually take offense. So it actually IS against an individual, one who's existance is rather ambiguous, I might add.

And, before you retaliate with, "Christ's proof is all around you, blah blah blah" may I invite you to take the argument to www.christianforums.com/f13 and post it there.

The argument probably won't last long, granted. The only people who can survive there are atheists, liberal Christians, and the stone deaf.

  • 05.27.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Chief 98

Ok buddy how come you come down on people for calling something "-blam!-" But you never do anything when someone says "OH Jesus Christ!" I find that very rude and think you need to deal with that too.


I'll give you your reason. Just because someone is offended by somethign isn't justification to take it away. The fact that '-blam!-' is a derogatory word as well as retarded is the reason it is not allowed to be used. Jesus Christ IS NOT derogatory, it's a just a statement of impasse. In fact, if you want to get technical, it's not just a name and a belief, not an actual derogatory word.

  • 05.27.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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Eagle: There is a universal definition of -blam!- in the English language. Look it up in Webster's dictionary... Actually I'll do it for you.


Main Entry: 1-blam!-
Pronunciation: 'gA
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French gai
1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY <-blam!- sunny meadows> b : brilliant in color
3 : given to social pleasures; also : LICENTIOUS
4 a : HOMO-blam!- b : of, relating to, or used by homo-blam!-s <the -blam!- rights movement> <a -blam!- bar>
synonym see LIVELY
- -blam!- adverb
- -blam!-·ness noun


Now, using it in the right context is fine I suppose, but the way he was using it was the annoying slang people came up with in the late 90s to refer to people as 'lesser' beings by repeating meaning -blam!- as stupid or the like. THAT IS WHAT DEROGATORY IS. It's slander and in this case libel. If you want to use it, use it with your friends because I, for one, cannot stand people who use that terminology as a defacto means of expressing that you dislike something. When I hear it I laugh at them and ask "So it makes you happy?" Get your definitions correct before you spout off about all your little tangents.

  • 05.27.2004 8:55 AM PDT
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Yea, let's not get into a discussion on it, a moderator said to stop, and so you stop simple as that.

  • 05.27.2004 9:51 AM PDT

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