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So your saying it's easy to get a kill at long range with a short range weapon?

Interesting...

  • 01.18.2007 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cwagle
How about Blood Gulch with Short Range weapons only, if possible, no pistols or snipers, I think that would be a fun change from the usual pistol whoring on Blood Gulch.


I have a custom CTF gametype that has a "no sniping" weapon set. I tried it a couple times to piss off X[IGN], Nessy and the other pros that go to the Gathering. The problem was they just secured the RL and fuel rods and became "heavy whores"

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there is a difference between difficulty and skill. Are you trying to say firing at someone with a shotgun at 100 metres takes skill?

  • 01.18.2007 8:45 AM PDT
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It's a lot of luck mainly, as it's pretty dang hard to miss, but chances are that you won't do much damage anyway.

It's like that one on longest with no shields and shotties, it's all luck if 2 people fire at eachother from 20 feet away.

  • 01.18.2007 8:59 AM PDT

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Why would you fire at somone that is 100 meters away with a shotgun?

Honestly I wonder about you.

I would use the plasma pistol or plasma rifle.

  • 01.18.2007 9:00 AM PDT
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from far away, they wont hit.

  • 01.18.2007 9:02 AM PDT

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Then hit the "W" key...

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they they hit the "S" key, meaning they have extended time to dodge while you have less time. Are you seriously trying to argue that using close range weapons at long range is skilled?

I will tell you what will happen:

Heavies and Nades.

  • 01.18.2007 9:06 AM PDT

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Then take out heavies as well. :D

And no, I am no arguing that using short range weapons at long range is skilled, I am arguing that using short range weapons at mid range is skilled.

Only idiots try and use short range weapons at long range.

  • 01.18.2007 9:15 AM PDT
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Setting the weapon type as short range in the custom gametypes removes the heavies, pistols and snipers, only weapons available on Blood Gulch when using this setting are AR, Shotgun, Plasma Rifle and Flamethrower.

The whole point of me suggesting such a gametype is because its a change from normal gametypes that get played.

To me killing from halfway across map gets boring.

I also think it would even the playing field between the normal players and the "Pros" in my opinion.

  • 01.18.2007 10:07 AM PDT

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no because the short range weapons are so ineffective at anything other than short range using them at any other range yields the same results regardless of player skill.


Says you, but granted it takes a low lag game to really allow skilled use of an AR at mid range...

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lol at your last statement. low lag makes no diff to how you can use a gun. Just get better, also, what is this skill you speak off? there is none.

  • 01.18.2007 10:22 AM PDT

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At longer ranges lag has a decidedly negative affect on the number of hits that count relative to the hits that land, this should be obvious, regardless of how exprienced at compensating for lag you are.

And just because YOU have no skill at using plasma weapons or the assault rifle at mid range doesn't mean OTHERS don't.

  • 01.18.2007 10:40 AM PDT

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Yep, new to the game, been playing it since 2003 and joined B.net in 2004.

Very new to this game, so much so in fact, that I don't even know how I could think that it's possible to beat somone wielding a shotgun when I have an AR. How silly of me to think that at mid range, I have a chance in hell of hitting him, let alone killing him.

I must be insane.

Now if your quite done, I never said that Nessy sucked, he said that there is no skill at using short range weapons at medium range, aka, you can't, and thus there is no skill involved.

Obviously this is his own experience on the matter, and therefore my comment about his lack of skill at using short range weapons at mid rage having nothing to do with others being skilled at it is perfectly valid and has nothing to do with me arbitrarily saying he sucks.

I can see what the people in the "The MAW should be deleted" thread mean about elitism here, because this is pethetic. I give my input on a possible gametype, Nessy here decides to be an ass and hassle me about it, and then you come along and do the same, then say "Oh, you shouldn't talk to big bad Nessy like that, because he could so totally woop your ass in Halo, and obviously by the way you post your new here so I could probably kick your ass too".

For the record, Nessy here could probably kick my ass in Halo, hell, maybe even you too, but you know what? I could kick your asses at real life. I'm 21 years old, have the best wife on Earth, have an awsome job, have a house, and the only thing that would make my life better is if I had a little more time to devote to gaming.

  • 01.18.2007 11:28 AM PDT

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I don't think so, I define Skill as this: the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well

And thus, it takes skill to use certain short range weapons at mid range effectively.

Which is why I would like to see this gametype, it would remove all the easy weapons from the game and force people to use weapons they don't normally use, without being as annoying as a match of all plasma weapons.

And don't tempt me to prove what I said is true, I can do it more easily than you think, now how about you stop with the attacks and stay on topic, hmmm?

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This whole concept of "skill" is not only laughably retarded, but rediculiously lame. It's a god-damn video game for christ sakes, it's not like being able to 3sk someone is going to get you into college. Being able to "boom, headshot" someone from across a video game map is not something to act all proud about. I find it especially pitiful that people who are good at a video game think they have a right to look down on others who may not be as good as they are.

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This whole concept of "skill" is not only laughably retarded, but rediculiously lame. It's a god-damn video game for christ sakes, it's not like being able to 3sk someone is going to get you into college. Being able to "boom, headshot" someone from across a video game map is not something to act all proud about. I find it especially pitiful that people who are good at a video game think they have a right to look down on others who may not be as good as they are.
First-person shooters are meant to be competitive. It brings out the primal instinct in people to be aggressive, to be the best, winner takes all. Simply put, whoever can shoot somebody in the head the fastest, whoever is most skillful, whoever can win the most is basically an ulterior way to show who is superior. It's all natural. Thus, it's not uncommon for high-ranking elitist players to act the way they do. I do it all the time. The reason people of higher skill are less likely to tolerate such "unskilled" weapons are because they are unfairly dangerous to other players without such weapons of power. Thus, only people with similar status can thoroughly and clearly prove who is the better player.

Still, we must be civilized, mature and respect others no matter how bad they suck. :)

  • 01.18.2007 12:55 PM PDT

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Grow up, shut up and get back on topic!

  • 01.18.2007 1:08 PM PDT
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So does anybody else hate the gametypes where there are only human weapons?
Covie and human weapons ftw
Wort wOrt woRt worT!

  • 01.18.2007 1:13 PM PDT
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Back on topic, Igg put ghosts, banshees and tanks on that Death Island CTF? That was kind of suprising to me since that's like the first time I've ever seen those vehicles on the Maw server. The game was a hoot though.

  • 01.18.2007 1:14 PM PDT

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