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We all assume that the Covenant released the Flood.

However Cortana and the Master Chief may have made it more difficult to secure the area when the Flood were found.

In the level "Silent Cartographer" Cortana and the Master Chief set out to enter Halo's map room but are stopped by the Covenant locking the doors. Cortana doesn't seem interested in trying to crack the system. Instead the Master Chief is told to disable the security system. So the MC runs off and does just that. The door/s open and all is well.

However?

Did shutting down Halo's security system have more profound effect? Did the shut down effect the security of the system containing the Flood. Maybe some other doors that were previously locked were opened as well. This may have lead the Covenant to investigate and possibly several other security systems were down. So the Covenant failed to see any real threat until it was to late.

By the time the Master Chief reached the Library the Flood were well and truly out and about. Multiple combat and infection forms were evident. The footage that the Master Chief views from the fallen soldier shows the Flood were already present when Keye's arrived. Keye's was on his way to the Library when Halo's security system was shut down.

The same footage shows a door the Covenant had tried to seal off. However with no security system in place it may have been difficult to do.

Hmmm I wonder a little about this. Sure shutting down the security system opened the door allowing the Master Chief access to the map room but did that action also have more profound consiquences?

Maybe the Covenant are not as stupid as we all think. Maybe they just saw a few open rooms and went in to investigate. Then the Flood came out of stasis or perhaps the stasis was interupted by the security shut down. The Flood then infected and overwhelmed the few Covenant in the area. Lets face it the Flood can quickly overwhelm unsuspecting prey.

Once a few Covenant were infected then more Flood could be generated and the rest is history. The Flood could have grown from a small threat to a very large problem before the Covenant even knew what was going on.

  • 01.26.2007 7:47 AM PDT
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When you shut down the security system in the Silent Cartographer, I think it's only the island's security system, I don't think it's for the whole ring. There are two Hunters guarding the security system when you go to unlock it, so that makes me think the Covenant wanted the system secure, and the main facility secure. I don't think they wanted the Chief to find the Cartographer and the Control Room's location, and they wanted him dead before he could get out. Why else are there so many Covenant reinforcements when you have to reach the surface for extraction? No, I don't think shutting down that security system was for the whole ring, I think only the island's facility.

  • 01.26.2007 12:07 PM PDT
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When you first face the flood on 343 guility spark their are a numberous of locked door all over the place. If mc and cortana shut down Halos security system then those door would also be open.

Conclusion: The release of the flood was the covenants fault.

  • 01.26.2007 1:52 PM PDT

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I'm not exactly sure who myself... in the level however the cells in the large rooms (the containement "vessels" in the large rooms, not the side hallways) are lifted, something it seems the covenant would do. And in Pvt. Jenkins record they find an elite killed by the flood before they got there, and the soldier says that he'll try to open the door into the main flood containment room, but the Covenant tried hard to lock it down. Like they were trying to contain the outbreak after it was released by them. So heres how I think it went down
1- Covenant lift containment vessels in large room, flood are freed
2- Covenant is frantic and try to lock down outbreak, including door into the main room
3- Humans come in and interupt contaiment
4- Humans are taken
5- Flood escapes further
6- Master Chief arrives


[Edited on 1/26/2007]

  • 01.26.2007 5:11 PM PDT
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No, the Chief is simply unlocking the door on the other side of the island. It was just a security thing created by the Forerunners to make it harder to access the SC.

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Posted by: Flaming_Rainbow
When you shut down the security system in the Silent Cartographer, I think it's only the island's security system, I don't think it's for the whole ring. There are two Hunters guarding the security system when you go to unlock it, so that makes me think the Covenant wanted the system secure, and the main facility secure. I don't think they wanted the Chief to find the Cartographer and the Control Room's location, and they wanted him dead before he could get out. Why else are there so many Covenant reinforcements when you have to reach the surface for extraction? No, I don't think shutting down that security system was for the whole ring, I think only the island's facility.

no the covenant are interested in halo and the structures they would of wanted to protect them

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Posted by: Murry
When you first face the flood on 343 guility spark their are a numberous of locked door all over the place. If mc and cortana shut down Halos security system then those door would also be open.

Conclusion: The release of the flood was the covenants fault.

maybe the covenant manualy shut them down any ways on Halo 2 the first level the arbiter didnt expect the attack from the flood

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  • 02.17.2007 3:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Snap Dragon
No, the Chief is simply unlocking the door on the other side of the island. It was just a security thing created by the Forerunners to make it harder to access the SC.

cortana said to keyes they need to sut down the installation's security.....
that meant the whole ring not the island

  • 02.17.2007 3:07 PM PDT
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Dude, don't post more than once in a row. This is a forum, not an instant-message chatroom.

The Covenant were on the ring first, right? Logically, I would assume they were the first ones to release the Flood.

  • 02.17.2007 3:09 PM PDT
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coviekiller's point 2the covenant lock down the doors so the flood could escape which supporst my point

  • 02.17.2007 3:10 PM PDT

Posted by: V101
We all assume that the Covenant released the Flood.

However Cortana and the Master Chief may have made it more difficult to secure the area when the Flood were found.

In the level "Silent Cartographer" Cortana and the Master Chief set out to enter Halo's map room but are stopped by the Covenant locking the doors. Cortana doesn't seem interested in trying to crack the system. Instead the Master Chief is told to disable the security system. So the MC runs off and does just that. The door/s open and all is well.

However?

Did shutting down Halo's security system have more profound effect? Did the shut down effect the security of the system containing the Flood. Maybe some other doors that were previously locked were opened as well. This may have lead the Covenant to investigate and possibly several other security systems were down. So the Covenant failed to see any real threat until it was to late.

By the time the Master Chief reached the Library the Flood were well and truly out and about. Multiple combat and infection forms were evident. The footage that the Master Chief views from the fallen soldier shows the Flood were already present when Keye's arrived. Keye's was on his way to the Library when Halo's security system was shut down.

The same footage shows a door the Covenant had tried to seal off. However with no security system in place it may have been difficult to do.

Hmmm I wonder a little about this. Sure shutting down the security system opened the door allowing the Master Chief access to the map room but did that action also have more profound consiquences?

Maybe the Covenant are not as stupid as we all think. Maybe they just saw a few open rooms and went in to investigate. Then the Flood came out of stasis or perhaps the stasis was interupted by the security shut down. The Flood then infected and overwhelmed the few Covenant in the area. Lets face it the Flood can quickly overwhelm unsuspecting prey.

Once a few Covenant were infected then more Flood could be generated and the rest is history. The Flood could have grown from a small threat to a very large problem before the Covenant even knew what was going on.


My theory is somewhat similar to yours. My theory is when the Master Chief shut the Silent Cartographer security system, he probably shut the whole installtions system. Because in the book, the Security Shaft is guarded by Zuka Zemanee, Yayap, some Grunts, stealth Elites(afterwards), and Hunters. So when the Chief shut it down, that must have given the Covenant the access to the Flood facility. So when the Humans arrived, it was when the Covenant tried to stop the Flood, it failed due to no security.

Then here comes the Chief to save the Marines.

Basically, the Covenant might have been at the Flood facility when the Chief shut down the Installations Security system. So I really believe our good friend the Chief released the Flood, from the Silent Cartographer island, since that might have been Alpha Installtion's whole security system.

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But Guility spark told us that the covenant was very eager to gain acces to restricted areas so i belive it was the covenants fault.

  • 02.18.2007 3:22 AM PDT
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Remember what Cortana said..."The Covenant found something, and now they're affraid."
Remember...Simbas...

  • 02.19.2007 3:27 PM PDT

Get back to work this ain't no picnic

I believe that Master Cheif released the flood when on the Silent Cartographer level. I truly thing that the island was acually built for a reason. and it was to protect the Halo's security system. So when MC shut down the Halo's security system it triggered the release of the flood

  • 02.19.2007 4:40 PM PDT
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If that was the case; then how did the flood escape conatianment on Delta halo?
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  • 02.20.2007 4:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: Camperman
If that was the case; then how did the flood escape conatianment on Delta halo?
Regards

Camperman


The release on delta halo may be the cause that they didn't know what they did when they turned off the security system on delta halo because they may belive that something else then turning off the security system released the flood on the first halo ring.



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  • 02.20.2007 4:53 AM PDT
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Found the Info:

Thousands of years after the activation of the Halos, another Flood outbreak occurred, forcing the monitor to search for a Reclaimer. Unfortunately, before he could find one, he was captured and held captive by Gravemind.

I just wonder how the outbreak happened?

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Camperman

  • 02.20.2007 5:27 AM PDT

Oh.. yeah.... that was me. Sorry. My bad.

  • 02.20.2007 6:33 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

at the end of assault on the control room cortana makes a direct statement siting the covenant as being responsible for the release of the flood. this is fairly evident considering the first real flood attack forms you encounter are mutated elites. you run into humans later but thats after you find out about johnsons/keyes' team getting taken by infection forms.

in regards to the thought on the silent cartographer, if memory serves when MC disengages the security system it pertains only to that specific area. i cannot quite remember but you really have to pay attention to the dialouge between cortana and keyes or foehamer. you could also just read "the flood" for a more detailed description of what happened.

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  • 02.20.2007 10:46 AM PDT
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wait, no. becuase the door was already unlocked, and the covie locked it so you couldnt get in. i usually skip all that and go straight to unlock the doors instead of wasting 10 more minutes of gametime to pointlessy waste ammo to end up facing a locked door.

  • 02.20.2007 10:51 AM PDT

Bungie might not say the truth. Maybe in H3 we'll learn who did.

  • 02.22.2007 5:14 AM PDT