Halo 2 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: Forerunner=Humans
  • Subject: Forerunner=Humans
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2
Subject: Forerunner=Humans
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Do you guys realize the forerunner are the humans 343 GS recognizes master chief as a forerunner, and halo looks like earth blue sky water oxygen and the same gravity as earth it would make sense for the forerunner to be humans or resemble humans or have met humans in the past and built halo not for themselves but for humans.

  • 05.26.2004 2:38 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

i think uve been watchin too many advent rising clips

  • 05.26.2004 2:44 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Whoa, calm down buddy! It's called a period, use it :P

I personally think the forerunners are neither human nor covenant. The GS had probably gone haywire, and used his vast intellect to lure the MC into beleiving him, rather than sending the sentinels to fry all the humans.

  • 05.26.2004 2:45 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Unless a time travel twist comes into play... that doesnt seem plausable. There could very well be similarities between the forerunner and humans... plus 343 recognized the MC in his armor as forerunner, and the MC doesnt look traditionally human.

If the time travel thing came into play, it would have to go into the slipspace alien artifact thing in First Strike. They messed with time slightly in that book.

But... this all sounds really farfetched and offset from the Halo storyline.

  • 05.26.2004 2:46 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

And Halo doesn't have the same gravity as Earth. That's why you can just really high and flip over the tank. I don't care how strong that armor is, it can't lift something that weighs like 1000 times as much as the armor.

  • 05.26.2004 2:47 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Rambo the problem with you idea rather the original post, is that, well, he is making a hypothosis, you know, making an educated guess, off of the information he already knows...

You on the other hand, just made a guess...

  • 05.26.2004 2:48 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

And Halo doesn't have the same gravity as Earth. That's why you can just really high and flip over the tank. I don't care how strong that armor is, it can't lift something that weighs like 1000 times as much as the armor.

yes it can.....

  • 05.26.2004 2:52 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Who the forerunner are is key to the story line also GS also says to MC you have chosen a very weak level of armor I would sugest upgradng to a mark 9 how does he know that. He knows an auffel lot about humans. A time travel thing might that far fetched GS does say when trying to get MC to fire halo "Ive had plenty of time to ponder year question since last time you asked if I were able to would i have done it and my answer remains the same you must fire the ring" This means halo has been fired before and by some one resembling MC and if he goes back in time he would have a newer better suit explaining the suit upgrade comment. Also in the book MC talks about how some how he subconciously knew what buttons to push to open doors how could he know this unless hes been there before. One more thing GS speaks english meaning he know s the human language.

  • 05.26.2004 2:54 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Yeah, but aren't the Halos supposed to go off every 100 million years and kills off all the Floods food, maybe the Humans did this because the infectious Flood got out and started to infect everyone, and they didnt want them to spread, so they designed them to kill off almost all the Humans and (maybe) it also missed the Covenant. So, actually, the Humans might very well be the Forerunners. Just the Forerunners are their ancestors.

[Edited on 5/26/2004 2:57:42 PM]

  • 05.26.2004 2:56 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Well why would the humans create a stupid AI to look over halo in the first place? And if the humans did own halo to begin with why did they even abandon it? Furthermore, the control panels on halo seem a lot like the covenants'

  • 05.26.2004 2:56 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

GS sugested to upgrad to class 12 battle skin or somthing close to that.

  • 05.26.2004 3:00 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

If the humans built it and fired it and killed a lot of the covies it could explain why the covies hate humans.

  • 05.26.2004 3:00 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

It would kill the humans in the process

  • 05.26.2004 3:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Did anyone even glance at what I had to say, or was I being ignored over here?

  • 05.26.2004 3:01 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

The tech on halo is to advanced to be the work of humans. The covenant couldn't have made it because in the books they say that the covenant immitated the FR tech.

  • 05.26.2004 3:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: ACIDD
The tech on halo is to advanced to be the work of humans. The covenant couldn't have made it because in the books they say that the covenant immitated the FR tech.

Dude, the Halos go off every 100 million years, right? Then what about before the first time the Halos went off and made the universe desolate? Maybe the Humans could've been ultra-advanced back then, it doesnt seem that improbable. I'm pretty sure they could've made the Halos back then, and could've programed them to not kill off all the humans, like for it to miss Earth and all the rest of the colonies would be destroyed. I think they would do that if it was a last-ditch effort to control the expanding influence of the Flood parasites. Just think about it for a second, it's not that unlikely seeming, hell, it makes perfect sense to me if that's what happened.

  • 05.26.2004 3:10 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

It doesnt kill the people on halo also in response Darkhellfire halo cannot be fired with out some one using the index that was the whole purpose of the library level. So the purpose of all the halos is simple forerunner (humans?) run into flood or possibly create flood they get out of hand forerunner build the 4 halos get in tem fire them kill all life maybe even some humans not on a halo let the flood starve then come off the halos and recolognise the galaxy. I just had and idea what if the forrunner are the humans who got one the rings before they went off and the humans on earth are the ones who didnt as I said covies hate humans because they remind them of the forerunner (other humans) who fired halo so they attack also it would explain why he asked GS the question about whether he should fire halo because it would kill millions of other humans and MC being a soldier has that leave no man behind attitude.

  • 05.26.2004 3:14 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

If the halos go off every 100 million years, then why did GS need a 'Reclaimer'

With such advanced tech, why didn't the humans 'back then' survive. If they did, humans would be much more advanced than the covenant.

  • 05.26.2004 3:15 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: fencr505
It doesnt kill the people on halo also in response Darkhellfire halo cannot be fired with out some one using the index that was the whole purpose of the library level. So the purpose of all the halos is simple forerunner (humans?) run into flood or possibly create flood they get out of hand forerunner build the 4 halos get in tem fire them kill all life maybe even some humans not on a halo let the flood starve then come off the halos and recolognise the galaxy. I just had and idea what if the forrunner are the humans who got one the rings before they went off and the humans on earth are the ones who didnt as I said covies hate humans because they remind them of the forerunner (other humans) who fired halo so they attack also it would explain why he asked GS the question about whether he should fire halo because it would kill millions of other humans and MC being a soldier has that leave no man behind attitude.
I know that Fencr, but maybe every 100 million years GS has gotten a Human to fire the Halos for him, it would explain why he waited so long to contact someone when the flood started to get out of hand again.

  • 05.26.2004 3:16 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

There are other possibilities. If the Flood were being researched for whatever reason then they might have been researching other species.

Personally, the theory I'm following at the moment is that long ago the humans were the only true civilization in the galaxy. They were the forerunner, a proud and decadent race that never once thought they could ever do wrong.

Having mastered the machine, strange energies they expanded their experiments, working with the very foundation of life itself. They began creating servitor species, bred to survive in harshest environments, to protect them and perform hard labor where machines would be less efficient.

It would be a new era for the Forerunner topped by their one new experiment. They were to be immortal, the discovered a lifeform with vast regenerative properties and were attempting to extract the genes that made it so resilient. They did not foresee the danger. How could they? They were gods. One day that particular experiment escaped and brought the forrunner to it's knees.

The triggering of the Halos was their only option to save what was left of the universe. A last lone human aboard the Halo Installation 04 stopped and hesitated, realizing by activating the Halos he would destroy what little human life remained. He has an idea, there is a slim chance for survival however, Guilty Spark, the AI guardian of Halo 04 annihilates the human when he begs for time, taking the index for himself and activates the ring. Years later, confronted by the Master Chief the AI becomes confused between the two events and begins talking to the Chief as if he were his ancient master.

The Halos go off and humankind is nearly eradicated, all except for those huddled away in a special chamber in a forerunner facility on a small world called "Earth". Meanwhile, lightyears away the races of the covenant prosper and begin to gain sentience, exploring the laboratories they were created with or escaping out into the wild. Milennia later the Prophets begin to gather together the races and takes the role the Forrunners were meant to be... the God Kings of the servitor races.

Then... the Covenant encountered Earth and the Prophets, for the first time, knew fear. Their masters had returned.

  • 05.26.2004 3:22 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

This is farfetched, but is it possible that the humans and covenant
could be related...

All possess similar physical structure (2 arms, legs, eyes).
The hand formations are alike in that they have thumbs.
They all walk upright, rather than being four (or more) legged.

Maybe the FR were ancestors of both covenant and human...

  • 05.26.2004 3:27 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: ACIDD
This is farfetched, but is it possible that the humans and covenant
could be related...

All possess similar physical structure (2 arms, legs, eyes).
The hand formations are alike in that they have thumbs.
They all walk upright, rather than being four (or more) legged.

Maybe the FR were ancestors of both covenant and human...
Exactly my point!! I said that they could possibly be ancestors of the Humans, but for awhile there I totally blanked out and forgot about the Covenant

  • 05.26.2004 3:29 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

to the person who said halo doesnt have the same gravity as earth read FoR go to page 340 cortana says.but it appears that the ring has oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere and Earth-normal gravity

[Edited on 5/26/2004 3:35:21 PM]

  • 05.26.2004 3:34 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I don't see how the Covenant can be related to Humans just because they all have legs, arms, eyes, etc. They all have those particular features because they evolved at the same time with their technology(humans), or evolved around technology they found(covies) and needed thsoe particular appendages to use it.... Just my thoughts.

  • 05.26.2004 3:38 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

One thing puzzles me. GS speaks English, how is that possible when the first language (spelling?) spoken by humans is no longer used?
Could GS have known about the human in 2552, maybe studying them?
Maybe the FR were just recently destroyed

  • 05.26.2004 3:38 PM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2