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Some of you have been saying how there just isn't enough moderators to watch over certain things. This is true in some respects but, well.

There are currently some, what, 26 moderators? 26 moderators to 2,000,000+ users - you do the maths. I realize many of the registered users on Bungie.net may not actively post but still, back to my point.

If 26 moderators can take care of 2,000,000+ users, I'm sure they'll be able to manage watching over, for example - user uploaded avatars.

However, it would mean that the moderators would have "a lot more on their plate" and they already have enough for all the meals of the day. So it would probably be best that such things as user uploaded avatars are not allowed.

  • 02.06.2007 8:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: kodemyster
After someone creates a new account for spamming purposes, they are normaly IP banned soon... like I said, please don't make stupid reasons.

But whatever its cool. I was JUST wondering. Thanks.


I'd love to know if that works yet. Because then we could get rid of all of the spammers without having to worry about them coming back.

  • 02.06.2007 8:52 PM PDT
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Achronos has repeatedly stated that IP banning won't work. And he has also repeatedly stated that Teh New Hawtness will have something to do with it.

  • 02.06.2007 9:01 PM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

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Honestly, its like a dog and chain. If you chain a dog up forever, its going to break free and run into traffic and get itself killed (or starve). If you teach it early, let it learn the ropes, and hope for the best chances are it'll do just fine.
For those of you who don't catch on to metaphors: the dog is our forum :O


Why do dogs lick their balls? Because they can. I'm sure that if you could, you would too.

Why would people post pictures of girls in tubs? Because they could. That is why we aren't allowed to post pictures.

-Alex :S

  • 02.06.2007 9:29 PM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

Posted by: EL THORN
So Bungie.net stops me from licking my balls?


Yes. That's exactly what I meant to convey.

-Alex D:<

  • 02.06.2007 9:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
Because I said so.

Nuff' said.

But really, the people on Bungie.net are not mature enough to handle some of these privileges. I mean, who wants to see people post pr0nographic images, or see page after page of annoying images? Or see someone who has a really annoying font that's the size of a while, and that has really bad contrast with the background?

Bungie.net's forums are fine the way they are. Nuff' said.

  • 02.06.2007 10:25 PM PDT
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I can always tell when a person has no idea what they are talking about when they suggest an IP ban.

As anyone with the slightest networking knowledge out there could tell you, almost every single person out there has a dynamic IP, which will change as soon as they reconnect their modem (well, it is theoretically possible to get the same IP again, but unlikely).

IP addresses are allocated from within a certain pool, which usually will be a large number; banning them all would be impossible for the most part since many innocent users would be targeted in the crossfire, which is unacceptable.

  • 02.07.2007 2:00 AM PDT
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There must be some unique indentifier that can be used to ban people effectively. You would have thought that they (as in the people who develop the technology that the Internet uses) would have thought about this.

I don't really know much when it comes to networking, but couldn't the mac addresses be banned? That just came to mind.

  • 02.07.2007 2:56 AM PDT
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There isn't really any way actually; the internet was not built with the uses of today in mind, though perhaps the internet 2 will solve some of these things. If my memory serves me, MAC addresses are not transmitted normally over the TCP/IP protocol, and they can be spoofed and changed anyway, so they are not secure.

Only a few pieces of information are transmitted when you use the web; user agent (web browser), operating system, IP/Host name, and banning based on these is not feasible.

  • 02.07.2007 3:33 AM PDT
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I had a gut feeling that there wouldn't be a way.

When you say "Internet 2" are you referring to "Web 2.0"? That's just a term for websites that use applications such as forums and what not (as far as I know). It's also used to describe a certain type of website design.

The Internet has been around for a while now, I doubt that there will ever be a way to efficiently ban someone from a website/forum, at least not any time soon.

[Edited on 2/7/2007]

  • 02.07.2007 3:42 AM PDT

Posted by: Achronos
I generally think most forums allow way too much clutter. For example, smilies. They're irritating. Images. Hell, even signatures are irritating - why should I be forced to read what essentially is an ad for yourself every time you post?

Couldn't agree more. It's all annoying, but sigs are the worst offenders. I like a forum that means business.

  • 02.07.2007 4:31 AM PDT
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When I say Internet 2, I'm referring to the second iteration of the internet - which will be a long way off - which will hopefully have a lot more security built into the basic protocols; many things can be spoofed with the current protocols and they weren't designed to do what they are used for today.

  • 02.07.2007 6:15 AM PDT

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